Covenant - Part 3 - David Emanuel
Okay, so, so we're going to pick her up from devastated country and a desperate yearning for a New Covenant because everything else pretty much had been destroyed and 2 to begin this. We see in Jewish culture just giving you back through the middle.
Absolute Jewish people have been exiled 70 years, approximately, come back, to the land of Judah. They are no longer a nation. They are a district, is the District of Judah, very small area around Jerusalem. That's what they come back to their marginalised and they count for very little. They and they are even at this stage that it. Efforts to reconnect with God. Once again now that brings to the end of the biblical. Then we coming to what school the intertestamental. I'm between the Testaments that big white page in your Bible that separate the Old and New Testament where lot's happened as a matter of fact, one of the most critical things that happened. Was that in about 16 between 167 and 160 BC that there was as though they were together. They say they first on the person who lived on the Greek root. Then there was a rebellion that took place and we'll go into it. But the basic needs would call recorder the maccabean revolt and the Jews. If its cold to refer to. When you, as you read this, in the book of Maccabees leaving, Josephus is a record. What happened? It is beginning to look like a Revolt in the sense of all the juice wanted was a place where they could worship freely without any problem. That's the way it begins. But as you read through the story, we find that it develops into more than this, if you develop into an idea of the Jews wanting to re-establish control, Hold up the nation of Israel. That's what it grows into. But as part of this Revolt, we have a succession from Albert that we have, we have a succession of Jewish rulers, who claimed to be priest-kings. That's that's ultimately the line they take up with how they view themselves as both priests and kings. As a rule, they have to order intensive purposes, they have a very successful and very powerful room up until about 8 at a 70th are the Romans came and pulled the plug on it. But often the America being set up their rule. There was one group of people that said this is not the true priesthood. So therefore this I don't be the true Israel as dictated in scripture and so they fled to the desert and they set up a community and they attempted to establish a pure Community. According to the Purity laws in the country, they had in scripture, we call this group The essenes and they are connected with the Dead Sea Scrolls. Big story to it but we have nevertheless a community in the desert. Themselves wanting to be in a pure and clean relationship with God. The community is this season so they call themselves a bunch of names such as the Yad. They call themselves The Ada, they call themselves, the sons of zadok, the needs to talk, they call themselves. The sons of Light, this is very important, very important because it's it's one of the least according to a beautiful Connection in the New Testament, there is a very peculiar Parable that Jesus tells of a shrewd, 72 going to be put out of his job. And he goes around making deals with people who always in the world that has mocked the money. And he listens to. This is how much do you owe? You fifty bucks went around, making these deals so he could have some kind of life after you was going to get put out. And at the end of that story, Jesus says, I'm down here on Badoo, says, how much shrewder are the people of this world than the Songs of light and if you read that text without any knowledge of your sins, you thinking he's disrespecting believers. He's disrespecting the Believers saying, they don't shoot with things, but when we look at that breakfast as a reference to the sons of Light, it makes perfect sense because the sons of Light separated themselves and didn't make any connection like that or they despise that sort of a connection with any sort of Mamon and Deals. So pretty sons of Light as a connection. I think it's a very valid connection to the essenes as opposed to trying to map that to Christians makes more sense. They also refer to themselves as the poor, the simple. And the members of the New Covenant. They call themselves members of the New Covenant. The text you want to go to the text called. The dussehra had one Key West. What's the community room? It's called in it at the community room at this is a rule written in at qumran and it describes the communities life an idiot. They refer themselves at the members of the New Covenant. They saw themselves as New Testament Believers almost as a Prelude to what was about to take place. So, what preamps what happens later on with the followers of the way, which is, what Christians were originally called. This community is very interesting. Some of the parallels with this community was bound by Covenant, they were Bound by a covenant. The community shall establish a covenant before God in order to carry out or He commands an order not to stray from following him. This is how you enter into this community via a covenant. And I thought it was very interesting as well in this community. That is part of the entry process. There is a confession of sin. Why is that so important? It's so important. We remember hours ago, when I spoke about Adam and Eve, I said that there were two crimes committed, one was the sin and the second was the denial. That's crucial, not just dealing with the same, but the denial. And so as a prerequisite of entering into a covenant, you have to confess you say, you have to do it. That's what Adam didn't do. And I'm say what we see here in this early, Jewish Community, I think points towards the needs of the New Covenant, the Church of the New Covenant, the Believers, the followers of the way and also shows that even the Jewish people wanted over expecting a new covenant. So that is the seeds. Now, we see the institution of the New Covenant, the Lord's Supper. Criminal Minds is the framework of covenanted. What's going on? Where does it? Take place around. What a meal. The Covenant is established. With a meal. Okay, what did I say Elsa? Don't think about Covenant is that it involves sacrifice something had to be cut. He broke the bread, he gave it to the disciples. Say this is my body, which is given for you to sacrifice is Jesus's body. This meal is the day that the crucial point, the climactic point of Jesus ministry to seal this Covenant. Covenant. Remember what happens in The Exodus when I said, the Elvis sat down and the 8th with God? What is going on at this table? The disciples are sitting down, eating, with God. God incarnate. This is the Covenant to get echoin. What's going on in Exodus again? And with the witnesses kid, who do Divine witness is Jesus? Where does it happens? 12 disciples Jesus called, Dude is coming up by himself. There has to be witnesses to see what happened to inaugurate. This Covenant will make us more discussed as yet quite important. You see, this picture that I have here, hope you can see it. The back, you can see the disciples there around of the table. The Roundtable three-sided table to school. The trick Liam. Okay, this is how is how big expensive meals were made and was very interesting is when you read the story, I think it's in the account is straight off to the story. You're going to notice that the disciples are arguing about who's going to be gracious to the king of Heaven, who's going to be doing that, they doing that. Because when you sit in the trickle, you that head of the table is first and you go down in rank. So when they finish this meal, some of the guys, at the end of think it is itself. The guys at the close to Jesus thinking, they leave this table. They fail to see the Magnificent, it's just, it's sad, but I think it's cheaper prices. Well us as human beings, this is what we do. We miss that, The Marvelous things that Jesus died, and we concentrate on the pitch and irrelevant. So when looking at the New Covenant, Covenant format in framework, which I have already spoken. There is a conflict involved. In Romans why? We were enemies. We were reconciled to go to the death of his son. There was a conflict truth in, this is mankind. This is what needs to be resolved. Then there is an agreement that has to be in agreement. If you confess with your mouth, that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart, that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. This confession is, yes, it's a verbal confession, but it's more than what we see. It's more than just saying that Jesus is Lord. This confession is about agreeing to the Covenant. Agreeing to a covenant relationship there, a stipulation for men in that. We have a part to play and have listed here, particularly what takes place in The Sermon, on the Mount of the plane, we have an obligation, not to stay, but I believe the New Testament, what we call the New Testament. Primary contains a list of how instructions on how life needs to be lived. Inside his New Covenant agreement, the sign of the Covenant cuz it has to be there. God has established us with you in Christ in his anointed us. And who also has put his seal on us, is sign on us. And has given us his spirit in our hearts. That's one of the signs that we have. The spirit that we received from Christ. What are you selling here? What I'm doing here is what we are calling Christianity. Is a covenant that we enter with God, that's what I'm arguing. It's a covenant that we into with God, nor the trappings of a covenant still exist, where that would be talking a bit more, more about that. Covenants and sacraments I mentioned before when we say sacraments the main sacraments that we have something that we should do this more than the eye can see, and that's the best way of putting it. I know we don't like him in the church. We don't like to talk about mysteries of this kind of stuff. I know we don't like that but I would argue in the sacraments something does happen. I'm sacramentum is connected with the idea of oath taking big field in the early church. For instance, when you take communion in the early church, that was a sign of an oath taking to God. That was you that sentence with the persecutions began, but when I'm talkin about,
That when he thinks something is spiritually going on. I am everyday, but I'm not being baptized. When baptism happens, something different is going on and I know as a scholar, what is it? Put your finger on it. It's a mystery, but something spiritual is happening. Communion is the same thing I eat bread. Drink wine. It's all the time at home having communion where we sit down and we come together. The communion, I'm going to argue that there was something other than to be spiritually that we can see that. But nevertheless, we must do. Otherwise, we would just say live your life and whenever you eat some bread and drink some wine, you have a communion in that since we sit down his own sister, be eating again with god, with every other going on. And I argue that is the same with marriage. The Two Become One flesh. I don't understand, I can't put it into words. I can't explain, but something other happens in Christian marriage. Hence, this Things are grouped together and called sacraments, there is something mysterious going on baptism. Is a new emotion and I'm sure you all know people would be immersed in water from the days of Jesus, and before writing that backgrounds. I hope you can see a mikveh, the place that these dishes from the stopping walls of Jerusalem with people amongst themselves. But this was a modified immersion that had a new significance. It also takes on a sign or an external witness of an internal changed. When were baptized? We go into the water. It's something that changes as we are different. We can always think in terms of post pre and post baptism that baptism serves as a sign of something that is taking place that we cannot see, it's part of the Covenant process. Baptism is there for at least 10 shellacked of the Covenant process. About the guy was crucified and I get it there going to be exceptions that occur. But if we're living, in terms of what is available to us, what we should be doing, baptism should be an essential part of our church obviously, and I don't infant baptism, instantly becomes problematic becomes problematic because then how can a child understand what they're getting into to be baptized but that's all and I don't want to upset people here. Communion is there for Covenant renewal. I said, covenants needs to be renewed recalls. When Christ says to do this in remembrance of me, he say that this is a tradition that go, that must continue and we find what cheese is basically doing.
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Don't do it in recollection of The Exodus. Do it in remembrance of me. Remembrance is an intellectual act, that Demands a physical response. It's not a thinking of all the great holiday we had last year was something like that. It's a thought that triggers action. The action is a renewed effort to keep the confidence. That's what we do and we have committed, we respond to what God has done with renewed effort to keep the Covenant. It is a renewal of the old cabinet that we need to remember and this is one of my Huge disappointment to the church. This Magnificent ceremony of sitting down with God and reacting talking about salvation has been reduced to a cup of grape juice and a suits on for 5 minutes. That is a travesty that was not practiced by the early Church by the early church. It was a meal. You sat down and ate and record the salvation of Christ you faced each other reliving that Covenant and we have reduced it to this pathetic. Five-minute ceremony that takes place. Sorry, I would like to change it but I'm going to it's disappointing to be okay. I can. Anyway, so if that's what it should be communion preferably should be with people because the Covenant is with people, I understand it. I did it, my mother's while she's housebound, she can't make it to church about it, but if you can possibly make it to church, we should be together to celebrate that because we have caused Inter-Community together communion created a dilemma for the early church that I've mentioned before because when they celebrate it together, they came to get the eights and drank, that was a point in which the Romans called them and said, this is it, you are going to die. You are pledging allegiance to another God. Magnificent or communion must be viewed under the framework of a covenant marriage. Covenant to avoid Strife, marriage to Citizens living dangerously close together. Yes, I can get an amen for that.
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What without Covenant? Route to fail without Covenant and that's what the marriage service is. We find the Covenant in which two people Make their own stipulations. Terms of the covenants on what they are going to do. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I promise to turn the toilet seat up. Everytime I go back down every time I use it and you make these agreements.
To set up the relationship, okay? The ring is crucial because it is a sign of the Covenant. It is a covenant. It's a reminder of those promises that you have made. It is a covenant. There are witnesses. I always recommend people get married, my first recommendation. I know I'm probably going to see if I do get married in your own chair in front of the cloud of witnesses. In the congregation of Believers around you to be Witnesses, who you be growing up with and no, you get married in that contest, so they can serve as witnesses to what you are doing. But when you get married, you also get married in the presence of a Divine. God, you always are made before, God, I always think in the Christian church, how much more powerful would be as if you want to divorce? You go back to God and you say, Lord, I'm going to renege on that promise I made to you and that would be a bit of a, a bit more Food For Thoughts before you make that decision for you, make that promise in front of God, that Covenant that oath in front of God, Yuri. You should make that you should be coming back to him and say I am going to fail in that I am going to do that. Lord and see what comes made. What could come with me after that? I'm in Marietta has to be agreement. Covenant again, I do always being here, fits within a model of what a covenant is. The person says I do, they agree both sides have to agree. You can't marry someone and say and give them all the stipulation to say that it has to be agreement. Otherwise, it's not a marriage, the meaning of the reception, many people think it's not important. No, it is crucially important because that's where the deal gets done. That's where you sit down to families come together as one, the joined as one, the husband and the wife together come together as one. They sit down as a potential enemies, they eat a meal together. They share in a meal together had said before this great power that has been lost in sitting down and eating a meal to has been lost in our society Society. So I know that there are many of them. People traditional people that understand when you sit down with a meal, it's crucially important. I know they were tribes. Have you been to work in about researching its European tribe? And there were many tribes Boothwyn tribes that would not eat meat with anybody else but a Muslim Christian tribe, that would not fit meals. Have meals with anybody else, but other believers, it's because there is a an intimacy of sitting down, eating be looking at people, talking to them around. That is an intimacy as a shade agreements on that as well. Three parties are involved, the husband to wife in the God and God, I'm so happy about in a Christian marriage. In every Christian married, there are three parties involved in this Covenant, you swear to do those things before God to turn a particular way he is involved and most importantly for marriage. It is not based on feeling at any Covenant, it is based on commitments. If I had my way and I don't and I know you think he wishes he had seized way of many things but if I had my way marriage guidance, begin to the lesson on Covenant on biblical covenants, that we would begin to understand that what is being required is nothing to do with feeling, it's nothing to do with what you want to do, what you feel like doing, but it is about a covenant. Will you agree to do it? Through good and through bad, you agree to do it. That is where I would begin. Marriage. I believe a man and woman coming together to live together, can only exist within the framework of Covenant that we have seen here is a Brittany again, premarital counseling is Covenant, understand, Covenant, that is why I was saying before I report, I believe it's for the church. If, if I could make if I could make if every marriage was based on covenants in the church, I think the church would be stronger. I really do think the church would be stronger. It did it feel the responsibility to be obedient to what you were promised before? God would be, would be absolutely huge. So it's a promise to God. This is Covenant. It's our feelings become irrelevant. Love is equal to obedience Deuteronomy 6 of quoted here to 26. You probably know it that you a love. The Lord, your God hear o Israel. The Lord your God. The Lord is one. You love the Lord, your God with the world fuel.
However, you want to do it, your your your, your your heart soul mind. I don't know how you want you guys translated, but my point is it says you will love the Lord your God and isn't it amazing? People don't see this either. This greatest command is written in.
The beginning of the book of Deuteronomy and all three comes what?
Instructions loss. The deepest commands to love God is contextually in that of obedience. It he could have put in the summer songs So so, so he could have belonged here belongs here because the boy that love is about obedience. Love supersedes feeling. You love to go to proceed feeling, you love you spell, supersedes feeling. It is about obedience, the Lord's instructions and rules and it is about obedience to your spouse, even when they don't deserve it. Their behavior is irrelevant to your application. These are the principles. I would love to lay down in marital counseling. It is not about what they do. It's about your commitment to your Covenant obligations which you made when you got married. So the Covenant model iFit thing affects these stronger, then I think it has Church implications as well.
I'm going to just a few slides in a few slides. I think it's just a case has changed. We call ourselves Christians. We are basically properly speaking the people of the New Covenant that's us. The people that have accepted the New Covenant that Jesus ratified at the Last Supper. When we come into this it is a willing decision would have found on that. Later on. We enter that Covenant with a willing decision it is a considered decision. Jesus makes the parable of going towards counting the cost. It must be a considered decision. Okay, and another prerequisite is when you en't. Wait at covenant, it Demands a change in life. This is what the New Covenant is about. This is what these are the implications for the church. The call is well to the New Covenant is a community right and less of an individual call we have a responsibility to each other when we enter this Covenant to love each other with considered love irrespective of the other people irrespective of whether other people deserve it. On the covenants rules and regulations. We love them anyway. That is community life in a covenant. So that's another way we could think about it as well. We need to teach the covenants to our children, not an option option. The only way one generation would know what a covenant is when the generations change, the only way they know about it is when their parents teach them, the stipulations of the Covenant. That's how they know about it. That is our responsibility as well as parents first and foremost to teach to your children and at the church of the sea. Also to the children, that is part of Covenant living and Covenant responsibility. When Believers, how do people come to face?
People shouldn't coming to face, either through a personal experience of Deliverance or maybe you had a testimony of what God did to somebody, you know? Really well. This is like Israel being saved. God has shown his power. He's revealed who he is to you. That is the first part of the Covenant process, the revelation of who he is something to spread his power. Off to that comes in learning process. Should come and learning process width and length to find out. What does it mean to be a covenant with this? God, what is it mean to me? What can go do for me in the future? What do I have to do to live for him? Covenants, relationship. And I'm talking about our stay here and this is the same way in which Israel heard the noise when Moses came down the mountain. The laws were explained how they were supposed to live. So they can hear about it and this is how believe it's come to Faith when they hear about it and consider it. What it means, this is if you confess with your mouth, they know what it means. They agree to the terms of the Covenant relationship. This is the way, I pray that everyone come to face the understanding that this is the Covenant relationship just like Israel. They agree. And they say, yes, you have to enter the Covenant in that particular way. Life undercover necessitates changing of life. He could meet you where you are, but you will not remain in that place. Everything what I'm saying? Now, Countess, what has been described as the Evangelical gospel. The Evangelical gospel is One Way South with you. You get people to come and say that you believe that Jesus died for your sins. Do you believe he died for the sins of mankind? Yes, bang you in the club. Now, you're a Believer, this is a cheap gospel and this is not a covenant model and this is one reason why people coming and going from the faith left, right? And Center. For some reason say they believe that Jesus Christ died for you. Since what is that more than any demon? Who stated, you think? Any demon doesn't know that Jesus Christ died for our sins. You think Satan doesn't know that Christ died for our sins? It's about saying, yes, it's about understanding. It's about entering agreeing in this Covenant to God. This is the way I pray. People would come to Faith in my personal belief, is if people come into the face this way, there will be more people remaining in the face because they will understand that they off that committed themselves to something and that they need to see it through to the end. They commit to a life inside covenants and with that I think we can come to an end and have questions even before Rob got up to come to the front. So I feel really, really good about that.
I knew what the last slides were. So I didn't want to
You talked about sacramentum, the oath-taking idea and how the sacraments are. There's a spiritual thing happening immediately when you were talking about that, I was thinking about Dwight talking about the small and how it is the yolk of the Mitzvah, take care of you that you're taking on yourself on a daily basis. And so that, I'm my question is, if communion is an oath taking that you're entering into, do you see that as a new testament version of The sh'ma? Once, once you become a Believer, but I see it as a renewing of a recommitment stew, and I didn't want to use that language, but that the Yoke of Christ, Basically a recommitment to the Yoke of Christ, which is over Steve rabbinic, clearly heavily rabbinic language, but I think you are really committing yourself to that because, this needs to be renewed. So do those things those aspects, I think that need to be brutal and community services. And I feel very I feel very strong about communion and I very often, I kind of like I do, I think I think the point is missed very very often.
Dr. Emmanuel are you linked to New Covenant with in terms of renewal of the abrahamic and Mosaic Mosaic Covenant? If I understand it, right?
I'm trying to understand.
how, you know, Christians take that Covenant, as a new beginning but I like to see it as a connection of what guy has been doing all along. So I struggle with some things because like we don't want to see it only as an invitation to Then the nation's, yes, it is for the Nations to come into a covenant with God. But, you know, when I was young I used to, like, not understand. So, how did the people before Jesus gets saved or getting took? So like, how how would you help me? Understand how does this renewal affect those Jewish? Jewish Believers in God, who don't recognize him as Messiah. Does this make sense of the juicy basically who are not the majority of the people in Israel and outside? Do you talk about how if you took out This salvation will I'm talking about a life of Continental life the way we understand it. You mentioned how the Jewish people were looking towards a new covenant. Yet, some of them don't recognize that as having happened through Jesus. The Messiah. and so,
Is it is it rain in the big like he did more for the Nations or is it still a renewal for the Jewish religion? For sure. And they see dramatic change in their religion. After 8070 with the destruction of the temple, the destruction of the temple. That changes drastically because everything was sensible the temple before, but now it's no longer like that. And so they don't see any renewal because they see renewal in the sense of sacrifices, are no longer made at the temple that we now have to meet her. We now have the the morning, praise the evening prayers, which replace those. So they do see themselves as being part of a definitely, a new change. They see themselves as part of a new one as well. Moving away from Just the written law and then the oral or takes place in Jewish. Exposition takes place. So they do see renewal and there's a huge development that takes place 72 hours.
So, this New Covenant does not exclude. The people of God that Israel is open to all and to all I do not know I eat. God, dealing with the Jewish people having lived in Israel for so long and seeing and having an insight into a contemporary Judaism. Some of the I don't think they, I don't see them as living under the New Covenant.
Kind of horse riding. Okay, thank you.
I struggled with this a long time, the idea of what about these Jewish brothers who are really into Trying to be what God wants them to be. Trying to live a good life trying to not just trying succeeding far beyond what sometimes I could. And I one night kind of had a dream Vision. I don't know what you want to call it but I heard the trumpet. And I go there is and I'm going up now, I think I'm going over there not up there but it's a different subject anyway. I imagine some of my believing Jewish friends who don't believe Jesus is Lord. I'll just say it that way. Look up and they go. Oh, there is and we're there.
Jesus was sacrificed before the foundation of the world. There are several verses that testify to that. How can that be possible? Will he did die in time as a human being but the sacrifice the commitment to die took place before the world was formed and God has a plan, it's not a short plan, it's the long-planned. And the long plan is that more people will come to know him as Lord than we could ever imagine in her lifetime. and I think that that might apply to people like my friends who when they say when they hear the horn they'll see and they'll go and we'll be together wherever we're going to be and that's okay cuz we'll be with him wherever he is as heaven. And we'll all be saved there. It does that mean, everyone know, some people are high-handed and opposition to God. I don't think they'll be saved, but those who are trying, I think Might have an opportunity to. Hear the horn and go and it might be outside of time. I don't know. No, good answer.
Dr. Emmanuel, I want to thank you for your presentation and was excellent. Specially the last section. You started this last session on the essenes and I've heard in the past that a lot of Jesus's teachings were linked closely to the essenes. I haven't had a chance to study it, and there's not a lot in scriptures, that tells about Jesus's early raised, and until his public life. Do you believe that he may be? Studied or was, was taught in a scene based structure, and from which I have read, and I would say, absolutely no, it's no. It's the essenes were predominantly, very exclusive living outside. They did not mingle at all those decisions regarding theology as well, their views of the the end times eschatological views different very, very strongly with Jesus overlapping. There's an overlapping areas but these overlapping areas would have been common with Judaism per say because you seen stuff, didn't they didn't make up the rules entirely separate to Judaism. They were Galactic sets of rules which they had. So I I would not have linked Jesus with you since I know how long it's going to try to do that. I'm surprised that you said Jesus and looked on the Baptist who typically if we could go to Quran. They have a dreadful video of that shows, John. The Baptist is one of the essenes and many, many, Dreadful myths of come out from that. But it's all right. I don't see it like that. John Mayer. Had a closer connection with them, but Jesus grew up, way, way. Way up. North in the Galilee, he wouldn't date the scenes were associated much more with the South. So you wouldn't have had much of a contact much contact with them and Jesus, always, so we know it, you would have had, is Jose, if you would have had dealings in more secular areas as well. So I would say probably not, listen, you know, today I would say probably not.
The antithetical statements of Christ. You have heard. It said that I say to you, I think one of them is something like love your neighbor. You've heard it said, love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemy as well and paraphrasing. That's a Slam against the essenes rule they supported hate your enemy. So Jesus was flat out in opposition to the essenes on at least at one point. That's one point. But you have to be very careful because it doesn't mean on everything. I agree on a new one world. You even a Republican or you are a Democrat. There is nothing in between the world like that. And so there are instances where I was. He doesn't like the sons of Light either but we clearly see the other disciples silly woman have milk candy spots in having this socialist structure which is very clean Lake to BC's. So I want I just want to make, I want to emphasize the news about it, as opposed to thinking he's in this box there in this point, it doesn't quite work like that and I pray for everybody here. Read scripture. You look at uses life. Please appreciate new ones. Overlap things are not as clear-cut as you might think. I'm so that's that's why I was once trying to decide phone then. Sorry and my brother said, there's a box. I didn't know. There was a box. Throw the boxes away. Hello Monty and I are parents to 20 almost 21 year old daughter and a 22 year old son, who are of marrying age and having these conversations about marital Covenant and some of the conversations there in a college group of Faith Believers. But we see and hear a lot of young people of their age. Adopting, the feminist ideas of the of our culture into maybe trying to correct oppression of women, like, my son had been in a Bible study ends and just shared what he believed. How, you know, when the beginning that is going to be the conflict between man and woman has been wise, and he just shared how he was studying Ephesians and, you know, shared his eye, his understanding of scripture that more patriarchal and he got really negative feedback from the Girls in the group. So what would be your advice and I think you have sons and daughters there's and their older. Yeah and when when our kids are in this culture and how some of that comes into the Christian worldview of feminism and how our young people can stay true to God's word and his structure of Covenant when they're looking for a mate and praying about that. It's really challenging, especially when other believers are saying, you're not going to dominate over me and they're rejecting patriarchal or they're having all these discussions. I hope that makes sense. Any practical advice?
my hope my hope and and maybe it might be a quixotic thinking, is that if you you find two people, Voice is absolutely right. And it's, and it's terrible. I feel everything in the idea of creating anything. And so in that sense, the goodness of marriage, so we destroyed the corrupted, they State, they find Believers now where that Believers stands at even at the time they meet link between married, if my hope is that if they believe in God, Then and they all that really stole, it safe in Mystic position or even you know what a horribly? Misogynistic, they will change. And they will be able to do in the, in the whole previous will be if somebody hold that. But has so offended Philly to the point of them saying I can't marry you unless you do that, then that free, that person spend a note that to smoke the person. I love you, but this is my position that you hope that in Christ. Is my, my positions have change to marriage gravy to my hope. Is it that the debt crisis the foundation will will make things work in the end if they caught if the, if the level of that. So that other belief is above Christ. Then that's not the person for you, then just move on.
Jody.
In the context of leading leading someone to Christ introducing them. Are you aware of any like a basic outline or material a writer that approaches it?
In the context of Covenant. How does how does one lead someone to Christ? Does the idea of Covenant come later it in the discipleship or I just looking kind of for an outline? How do I bring it in and my life and life? I don't, you know, people who know people who is very big on 5% and I think it's going good. I think it's a very good grasp on what Christianity is a discipleship. I don't know what to say, what you doing to. This is what you do, you don't. Point to get a yes, out of people, without going to stand woman doing, you know what to avoid, has to be some sort of knowledge of God in that person's life. Some experience of God, some that, that they have felt me being a service, that go to spoken to the experience of God, that they can make a decision for that. So I would really think this is crucially important, our people, which we, we do all too often and then move on and have to understand this world. That a life of discipleship are like a covenant is a life of discipleship is a life of now. I'm going to do everything I can to be like Christ. That's what he asked me to do to have that down baby.
Those are the main elements. I think they have to be on the Covenant of God who he is and then we were together in the development center together in my phone. I'm becoming what I heard Jody asking was. Is there a handbook for this that we can use starting now to get on the right track? I know and I dreamt of that. And I wish I could have had. I wish I could have seen. I wish I could have
Next time, I teach these thousand handbook.
I would I would lay down, I would probably lay down something more because I would probably lay down. Something Beautiful concrete question right now, but I would include that the next time I teach this if there were handbook, I think it would be misunderstood And maybe misapplied.
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So sorry about the gospel and his Covenant and communion the importance of communion. So God gave Deuteronomy God, gave Moses and Joshua, essentially the same formula. Can you take these Grandma's? Meditate animal bats, can all be good and they failed, right? But then you get the New Testament with the gospel and what Jesus did on the cross. Just need to sensually. Repeat the same things. If you abide in my word, you know, the truth, truth will make you free, but the reason one of the essential things have happened with the New Covenant is. Now he's giving us a new heart and God is looking for people who Delight in him. Isn't that one of the essential things? That now now we're not going to fail so much, we're going to meditate on that. We're going to were in able to keep it because we have a new hard. No, I don't think it's I think it's some, this goes back to Adam and Eve the reconstituted. We will never could keep it and the crucial part in the garden. I said was to fold the crucial parts of of of of our faith is the repentance that we know like Adam that we that we recognize it. When we say we're sorry, we receive forgiveness. That's the crucial part of me that individual thing that goes placements that allows us to do it. I think it's a big deal but I do think that that that repentance Wars Ki. Anyway. I threw out the Old Testament. As well. It's just been set forth in a different way and you Covenant
I want to thank you for a thought-provoking presentation. That have a couple of questions up. the Bible says that,
We can't be saved by works. It says, without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins, and you mentioned that there has to be a sacrifice. And you mentioned the sacrifices in the Old Testament, but you didn't imply that they pointed forward to the perfect sacrifice of Christ. And he was a perfect sacrifice because he was in the beginning with the father. He was the activation and all creation, and he became human and lived, a perfect life. Do you believe that those Old Testament sacrifices pointed forward to Christ? I've been said he said patent for it. They clearly said a patent for it. There's no such thing as no. Other state is no remission of sin without the shedding blood Christ. The the did where I Stumble with that is no stumble with it. We are, we are looking in hindsight and interpreting that, they, I don't think they back. Then they were sitting down. Thinking he is a perfect sacrifice, but you can see how that point forward but that's our prospective. Absolutely. But I don't think they saw things by that way. That brings up the other question I had in the book of Galatians. It says that the gospel was preached to Abraham and the first chapter says there's there's One gospel. And then it says, in Galatians, 3:29 says, if you be the messiah's are Christ's dinner, you Abraham's seed, and heirs, according to the promise, It says that Abraham believed God and God counted it to him for righteousness. This was imputed righteousness. Said, all the Florida said we will do. That's a worker Covenant. I want to be just kind of, that's, that's a very easy framework switch understand. It's very modern, contemporary Christian, way of understanding it, but I would say this, when we look at the Old Testament, when you look at that, when David's sin with Bathsheba,
And straight away. God said, you'll sin is forgiven. You will not die. What was the baby due? David, do you repented his idea of the love of Salvation based on what it's something, we put too heavily on the society's post-reformation because we've come to the Catholic church. When looking back on it, that way, I'm going to suggest to you, maybe that there were many people in Israel, as well as in in in the in in the profits that I fully understood. That sacrifice means nothing but repentance is more important. So when we talked about salvation by what I think it was a better idea of Salvation through faith and repentance in the Old Testament, times the past we give credit for, that's what I'm saying, even despite what happens in in in in the, on the mounting, the prophecy to bring people back to this idea of repentance and you could come see the book. Amos with a most clearly recognizes when he speaks proposing I despise your festivals in your sacrifices even then it's not a Salvation based on what he called me because they were doing the works and even saying that it was even back then more reluctant to think of a very strict wife said, the northern kingdom would be just fine. They did. They did a ton of what? In the book of Acts, it says David saw the resurrection of Christ which means he saw the death of Christ first and then the resurrection. So David look forward to the the coming of Christ. I don't know what that means. I'll put the outfit that way. I don't know what that means, and if you want to say the David's or what did they would? Soak rice coming to being resurrected? I don't like I said, I don't I don't know what that means. Is that the face? I will say is a face that will produce works and will produce prevents. It has to be and you're right, it is Saving Face is Christ's sacrifice was before the foundation of the world before. A man, even existed before a man existed there could be no works. Now is Jesus. Our Passover Lamb. Yes. Is he our sin offering? Yes. Is he our guilt offering? Yes it's ER Fellowship offering. Yes is here. Daily morning and evening offering. Yes, he's all of that. He's all of that. The sacrificial system mirrors. What Christ did Christ is not is not for filled. Christ Christ sacrifice is fulfilled in the sacrificial system, but the sacrificial system does not look forward to Christ. Original sacrifice looks back. Looks forward to Jesus before, anything was created, decided he's going to die on the cross. I'd ever actually believe this. It's consistent with John. It's consistent with several verses in the Bible. The only way this makes sense is if the sacrificial system is a copy of what Jesus did. Before Time and on the cross. He had to be human so it had to happen in time. But also happened before time. Peter, this is dangerous and Mike Do you want to be here till 4?
I'll ask Mike because he can be very short. He's a writer professional. I'll be quick. Yeah I think one way to lead people to Christ is to make them question their own unbelieve. Give them reason to suspect, they could be wrong. And one of the results if they are, and this is how I've used it before to bring people to Christ and that was a young atheist. I knew when I was when I was young, which was months ago, no, right, is yours. But I took a lesson from the devil. He makes people doubt. He makes people question. He makes people wonder what if I'm wrong. So I switch to, I flipped it. And I said, what if, all this agnosticism that you Embrace? What if it's wrong? Look at some of the problems that it creates.
I promised short one from Peter. This might be a first, I have a short question cuz I know that Israelites were probably only about five foot six. Just a joke, okay. With a professional biblical scholar here, I was interested in your comment on song of songs and I'm not sure if I heard it correctly, you said that you didn't think there's Covenant in Song of Songs, Covenant, obedience. So my question was, I will not sure if that was what you said. So I'm not saying that's what you said. But my question is, then on the song of songs that are bunch of students of Solace, I Was Here song of songs. 8, 6 cement cement as a seal upon your heart. I'm wondering. Do you think that represents Covenant obedience, or the shulamit? The hypothetical Israelite female or whatever? That is in the song of songs whoever-she-is is? She asking for, Covenant, obedience or is that not even relevant? My view is so song, my point was that it's a, it's a love song of this lie and that we don't find the command to love God because the point of the summer songs is an emotional sensual love and put them you don't find the great commandment to love. God, V2 Elite, but we look at the word love and we think of that context immediately. But if God was trying to make a loving God, being something emotional, I hate people or people safe, Just a Fool in Love with God, and really, I'm just joking contextually about about that. Don't stall as I read it and understand. It is 100% first and foremost, primarily text. Julie, I love song, love song demonstrating the joy of human. Sexuality and sensuality in a nice legal format. That is what it is primarily and anything above that is interpretation. And so, if you want to go in the church saying, it's is where it's at the church, and God is right in the church. That's another layer. That is a nothing, but a magnificent and Beautiful Love Song. I would say.
Okay, so I'm going to go up and anoint David and pray for him and you can join with me, but make it up the stairs. That's how I feel. That's how I feel.
I know this is dumb, that's where my oral is always being ready in season and out my wife gave me this.
So Lord we thank you for this time with David. We ask your blessing on him and his family in the name of the father and the son of the Holy Spirit. Holy God, we pray that you will restore any time he spent preparing for this. driving with knee surgery and pain and difficulty and challenges. We pray that all of this time, all this effort will be restored to him tenfold. We great week are extremely grateful for you, sending him to us and we pray blessing on him and his family and his ministries and his family's Ministries in Jesus name and safe travel all the way home name in. Amen.

