All Things Work Together

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Three Groans

we all know about groaning. . . if you have ever wronged someone you loved. . as the song writer Lenny Williams sang “oh oh oh oh oh”
Paul says the earth groans, we groan, the Spirit groans
Verse 18
The sufferings in this present time are nothing compare to the future Glory
Paul said I have thought this thing out: nothing in this life compares or is not worth enduring for the Glory to be revealed
Verse 19-21
Genesis 3:17–19 ESV
And to Adam he said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, ‘You shall not eat of it,’ cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”
Gen 3:17

III. No Separation: The Spirit and Suffering (8:18–39)

Though believers endure suffering now, they will enjoy glory when Christ returns. In fact, the whole creation (“creature” in vv. 19–21) is groaning under the bondage of sin, thanks to Adam’s disobedience. When Christ finally imprisons Satan, He will deliver the entire creation from this bondage, and all nature will enjoy with us “the glorious liberty of the children of God” (v. 21). What a thrilling salvation we have: free from the penalty of sin because Christ died for us (chap. 5); free from the power of sin because we died with Christ to the flesh (chap. 6) and to the Law (chap. 7); and someday we shall be free from the very presence of sin when nature is delivered from bondage.

We have the Spirit of adoption, but we are “waiting for the adoption, that is, the redemption of the body” (v. 23). The soul has been redeemed, but not the body. We wait in hope, however, because the indwelling Spirit is given as “the firstfruits” of the deliverance God has for us in the future. Even if we die, the Spirit who has sealed us unto the day of redemption (Eph. 1:13–14) will raise our body to life (v. 11).

Note the three “groans” in vv. 22–26: (1) all creation groans, v. 22; (2) the believer groans awaiting Christ’s coming, v. 23; and (3) the indwelling Spirit groans as He intercedes for us, v. 26. Note John 11 where Jesus “groaned within Himself” as He visited the grave of Lazarus. How the heart of God is burdened because of the bondage of creation. What a price Christ paid to deliver us.

Paul points out that while we endure this suffering in hope we have the privilege of praying in the Spirit. Perhaps too much of our praying is of the flesh—long, beautiful, “pious” prayers that glorify man and nauseate God (Isa. 1:11–18). Paul indicates that the most spiritual prayer could be a wordless groan that comes from the heart! “Sighs too deep for words” is the way one translation renders v. 26. The Spirit makes intercession for us, the Father searches our hearts and knows what the Spirit desires, and this He grants to us. The Spirit always prays in the will of God. What is the will of God? That believers might be conformed to the image of Christ (v. 29). We can claim the promise of v. 28 because of the purpose of v. 29. Note that all the verbs in v. 30 are past tense: the believer has been called, justified, and glorified. Why faint under the sufferings of this world when we have already been glorified? We simply wait for the revelation of this glory at the return of Christ.

verse 28
Romans 8:28 ESV
And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Black’s New Testament Commentary: The Epistle to the Romans 20 The Hope of Glory (Chapter 8:12–30)

28 The activity of the Spirit on our behalf points to the ultimate security in God of those whom he has chosen. The presence of the Spirit, the first-fruits, is a proof that the Age to Come has dawned, and that its consummation cannot be long delayed. We know that all things co-operate for good to those who love God. On the text of this passage see p. 151, n. 2. The sentence may be taken in several different ways. If the text that includes the word God (ὁ θεός) is accepted, the translation is clear; God must be the subject of the verb (συνεργεῖ) and in this compound verb the preposition (σύν) will govern the dative those who love God (τοῖς ἀγαπῶσιν τὸν θεόν): We know that God co-operates for good in all things with those who love God. If the noun God is to be omitted several possibilities arise. (i) It may simply be replaced by the pronoun He: We know that he (=God) co-operates, etc. (ii) The subject of the verb may be taken from the preceding sentence—the Spirit: We know that he (=the Spirit) co-operates, etc. (iii) The subject of the verb may be all things (πάντα, which as a neuter plural will in Greek take a singular verb): We know that all things co-operate for good to those who love God. The last, the text and construction of AV, has been attacked as attributing to Paul an evolutionary optimism foreign to his thought; but it is less harsh as a rendering of the Greek, and though Paul was not an evolutionary optimist he did believe that Christ had overcome and was overcoming (vv. 35, 38 f.; 1 Cor. 15:24–8; Col. 2:15) the powers of evil, and that the last period of world history was speeding to a close that would bring salvation to the elect (13:11).

Paul does not often describe Christians as ‘those who love God’. For him, love generally describes the relation of God to men, while for the relation of men to God he reserves the term faith. In this he displays an accurate use of words, for men can never love God (who is altogether worthy of our regard) in the sense in which God loves us, his enemies (5:8). It is evidently appropriate to speak of love for God, and both Testaments provide examples; it is a grateful, trustful love. But Paul cannot allow himself to leave the impression that men may exercise an initiative which properly belongs to God alone. Those who love God are more searchingly defined as those who are called in accordance with his purpose.

For ‘called’ see on 1:1, 6. ‘Calling’ is the realization in history of God’s eternal purpose (cf. 9:11; also Eph. 1:11; 3:11). It is here, in God’s purpose, not in experience, even the experience of the Spirit, that the ultimate assurance of salvation rests. This purpose and its realization are analysed in the next two verses. V. 29 deals with what may be called the pre-temporal (or extra-temporal) aspects of the process, v. 30 with the temporal, though it also looks beyond history to the final glory.

The Gospel of God: Romans God’s Sovereignty and the Christian Response (8:28–39)

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose (verse 28). This verse is so rich in comfort and substantive in meaning that it is frequently memorised by itself. But if we take this particular verse out of the context in which it is written, we could distort the meaning. There are three elements that require specific attention.

The first element is the meaning of the phrase, ‘in all things’. One natural conclusion from such a statement is that every single thing which happens to us, by us, with us or for us, in this world, is added together by the sovereign God and brought to a great and wonderful conclusion. Well, I am not denying that God does that. But in the context of this verse, the use of the phrase ‘all things’ does not refer to each and every thing that happens.

The Gospel of God: Romans God’s Sovereignty and the Christian Response (8:28–39)

Obviously what the apostle has in view is the infirmities and the sufferings of the people of God. These sufferings that we endure in this world are not worthy to be compared with the glory that God has laid up for us in the future. These present sufferings are the ‘things’ that Paul has in mind. They are actually in a sense blessings in disguise, because the sufferings in this world are used by God for our ultimate good and for our ultimate benefit

Romans 8:29 ESV
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
This doesn’t mean that everything that happens is not good in and of itself
The Gospel of God: Romans God’s Sovereignty and the Christian Response (8:28–39)

Suffering is a tragic, physical evil. I am not supposed to say to another believer who is suffering, ‘Rejoice, this is a wonderful benefit that you are experiencing here, because it is working together for your good.’ We are not to praise God for the presence of suffering, particularly in the case of others, because that would lead us to the same smug attitude that is so destructively manifest in Job’s friends. Rather if I see another suffering, I must do everything in my power to alleviate that suffering.

The Gospel of God: Romans God’s Sovereignty and the Christian Response (8:28–39)

The second thing we need to note is that there is a restriction here. God is not promising to bring goodness out of all suffering for everybody. Rather he says, that in all things God works for the good of those who love him (verse 28b). It is not in the final analysis a matter of mental assent but of affection for God. Obedience, discipleship and living the Christian life are a consequence of loving God. If you love me, Jesus said, keep my commandments (John 14:15). Our obedience is based upon a prior love. The love of God is the motivating force for living a Christian life. It is not the desire to merit one’s own salvation, nor even an altruistic beneficent attitude towards our fellow men. The ultimate motivator for Christian service, Christian ministry and Christian obedience, is a personal affection for God.

this is why we study scripture, pray, practice disciplines
The Gospel of God: Romans God’s Sovereignty and the Christian Response (8:28–39)

The third aspect of this verse to be noted is a second distinction that makes it a passage of particular rather than universal application: who have been called according to his purpose (verse 28c). When the Bible speaks of God’s call, it never means simply the external call whereby the invitation to fellowship with God is given. Those who are called by God experience, what we call in theology, effectual calling

Paul summarizes the plan of Redemption and our Future joy in verses 29-30
what do we believe about Predestination
Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Bible Doctrine Chapter 32: Election and Reprobation: When and Why Did God Choose Us? Are Some Not Chosen?

Various theologians have given specific terms to a number of these events, and have often listed them in a specific order in which they believe that they occur in our lives. Such a list of the events in which God applies salvation to us is called the order of salvation and is sometimes referred to by a Latin phrase, ordo salutis which simply means “order of salvation.

Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Bible Doctrine Chapter 32: Election and Reprobation: When and Why Did God Choose Us? Are Some Not Chosen?

“The Order of Salvation”

1. Election (God’s choice of people to be saved)

2. The gospel call (proclaiming the message of the gospel)

3. Regeneration (being born again)

4. Conversion (faith and repentance)

5. Justification (right legal standing)

6. Adoption (membership in God’s family)

7. Sanctification (right conduct of life)

8. Perseverance (remaining a Christian)

9. Death (going to be with the Lord)

10. Glorification (receiving a resurrection body)

Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Bible Doctrine Chapter 32: Election and Reprobation: When and Why Did God Choose Us? Are Some Not Chosen?

We should note here that items 2–6 and part of 7 are all involved in “becoming a Christian.” Numbers 7 and 8 work themselves out in this life, number 9 occurs at the end of this life, and number 10 occurs when Christ returns

Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Bible Doctrine Chapter 32: Election and Reprobation: When and Why Did God Choose Us? Are Some Not Chosen?

The term predestination is also frequently used in this discussion. In this textbook, and in Reformed theology generally, predestination is a broader term and includes the two aspects of election (for believers) and reprobation (for unbelievers).

We may define election as follows: Election is an act of God before creation in which he chooses some people to be saved, not on account of any foreseen merit in them, but only because of his sovereign good pleasure.

Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Bible Doctrine A. Does the New Testament Teach Predestination?

Several passages in the New Testament seem to affirm quite clearly that God ordained beforehand those who would be saved. For example, when Paul and Barnabas began to preach to the Gentiles in Antioch in Pisidia, Luke writes, “And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of God; and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed” (Acts 13:48). It is significant that Luke mentions the fact of election almost in passing. It is as if this were the normal occurrence when the gospel was preached. How many believed? “As many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”

Acts 13:48 ESV
And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
acts13:48
in a few weeks we will look at Jacob and Esau
Romans 9:11–13 ESV
though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
romans
Ephesians 1:4–6 ESV
even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.
Ephesians 1:12 ESV
so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
1 Thessalonians 1:4–9 ESV
For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you, because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake. And you became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you received the word in much affliction, with the joy of the Holy Spirit, so that you became an example to all the believers in Macedonia and in Achaia. For not only has the word of the Lord sounded forth from you in Macedonia and Achaia, but your faith in God has gone forth everywhere, so that we need not say anything. For they themselves report concerning us the kind of reception we had among you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God,
1 thes 1
2 Thessalonians 2:13 ESV
But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.
1 Peter 1:1 ESV
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
1 Peter 2:9 ESV
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
Revelation 13:7 ESV
Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation,
rev 13
Revelation 13:7–8 ESV
Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
2 major views of Predestination
Prescient View -
the view which is common to the Roman Catholic Church, to Methodists, Arminians and Lutherans
The Gospel of God: Romans God’s Sovereignty and the Christian Response (8:28–39)

The view goes something like this. From all eternity God has prior knowledge of the actions and responses of humans. This is part of God’s omniscience, since he knows everything from an eternal perspective. Since God knows in advance with respect to time what we will do as human creatures, he knows in advance who will and who will not respond to the gospel. So the idea is this: God looks down the corridors of time from his vantage point in eternity and he sees the different responses people make to the gospel of Christ. On the basis of his prior knowledge of how we will respond freely to the invitation of the gospel, God then predestines those whom he knows will say yes to salvation. Predestination, according to this view, is not an actual foreordaining that people will believe, but only a foreordaining that those who believe will be saved. God does not work the faith into their hearts. That is something they do by their response, by their will, by their choice

augustinian view- Augustine taught predestination based upon God’s foreknowledge. The idea was that God merely chose those human beings whom He foreknew would freely choose to believe in Him.
augustinian view
However, the mature Augustine promoted predestination based upon God’s autonomous and inscrutable choice. This position holds that God chooses to extend His saving grace to some (the elect), but not to all (bypassing the reprobate).1 Thus, God predestines some to eternal life via irresistible though not coercive grace, but leaves others in their sin to be justly condemned through their own choice and deeds.
Verse 29
Verse 29
Romans 8:29 ESV
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
Black’s New Testament Commentary: The Epistle to the Romans 20 The Hope of Glory (Chapter 8:12–30)

It is not easy to distinguish between ‘foreknew’ and ‘fore-ordained’; God’s knowledge must surely involve ordination, since men and things must be and become what he knows them to be. The slightly ambiguous phraseology may serve as a warning that we are dealing here not with a rigidly thought out and expressed determinist philosophy, but with a profound religious conviction. To say this, however, does not mean that predestination is to be emptied of its meaning. The history and personal make-up of the Church are not due to chance or to arbitrary human choices, but represent the working out of God’s plan. Only here can peace and security be found. Our own intentions, like our own virtues, are far too insecure to stand the tests of time and judgement.

God’s intention is that Christ shall be the eldest (cf. Col. 1:18; 1:15 is less close) of many brothers, who become joint-heirs (cf. v. 17) with him, and so enter with him into his inheritance. This picture of Christ as the eldest in the family explains what is meant by ‘bearing the same image as his Son’. ‘Image’ is for Paul primarily an eschatological word (though this is not inconsistent with its origin in Gen. 1:27). Compare 1 Cor. 15:49; 2 Cor. 3:18; 4:4; Col. 1:15; 3:10. When God’s purpose is fully realized we shall share Christ’s glorious body in God’s likeness. At present we are conformed (συμμορφιζόμενοι) to his death (Phil. 3:10); we shall be conformed (σύμμορφοι, used by Paul in the present verse) to the body of his glory (Phil. 3:21).

Verse 30
Romans 8:30 ESV
And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Black’s New Testament Commentary: The Epistle to the Romans 20 The Hope of Glory (Chapter 8:12–30)

30 Predestination is worked out in time: those whom he fore-ordained he also called. See above on v. 28; also 1:1, 6. Calling brings God’s purpose into time. In human terms, calling is conversion; compare 1 Cor. 7:18; Gal. 1:6; Col. 3:15; 1 Thess. 4:7. Man becomes aware of the predestinating love of God. Those whom he called he also justified, because they responded in faith to his call. Life and glory are impossible apart from the righteousness conferred in justification (see pp. 30 ff.). With justification Paul has reached the present; but so sure is his confidence, and so certain the purpose of God, that he can go on to describe a future event in a past tense: those whom he justified he also glorified. For glory as the final consummation of God’s saving purpose, see pp.44 f. Beyond this there is no more to say.

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