God Learned With Us
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Jab 1
Jab 1
100%/100% in marriage, in faith=Jesus 100% God and 100% man
Heb 5:
In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him, being designated by God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.
luke 2:41-
Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up according to custom. And when the feast was ended, as they were returning, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. His parents did not know it, but supposing him to be in the group they went a day’s journey, but then they began to search for him among their relatives and acquaintances, and when they did not find him, they returned to Jerusalem, searching for him. After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers. And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.” And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?” And they did not understand the saying that he spoke to them. And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and was submissive to them. And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.
If Jesus didn’t have to learn, then why did Jesus have to wait until He was 30 to begin His ministry? If Jesus didn’t have to learn, then how can He truly understand what it is like to be human?
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all that he himself is doing. And greater works than these will he show him, so that you may marvel.
john 5:19
john 12:49
For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak. And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has told me.”
Matthew 24:36
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
Heb 2:14-
Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery. For surely it is not angels that he helps, but he helps the offspring of Abraham. Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
(above maybe for next week…)
Eli asking me a great question (illustration for questions building relationship)
Jab 1
Jab 1
Terrific Traffic. Slides to match
Gee the traffic is terrific…no it’s not.
Monica looks up definition of terrific.
adjective
1. of great size, amount, or intensity.
"there was a terrific bang"
"there was a terrific bang"
2. causing terror
I learned something new.
Jab 2
Jab 2
Great questions on bible reading
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
Ryan: Here’s a question, I thought Heaven was a real place, and eternal?
Great question!
Jab 3
Jab 3
Questions are one of the defining marks of humanity.
It’s not just how we learn, but also how we build relationships
Eli asking me if I’m a nerd.
Today this idea cuts 2 ways. One, we are looking at one of the greatest questions, “What did it mean for Jesus to be human? How was he both man and God?” Secondly, and as a result of the answers to the first, what does it mean that Jesus had to ask his own? What does it mean that in Jesus, in the incarnation, God learned with us?
Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up according to custom. And when the feast was ended, as they were returning, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. His parents did not know it, but supposing him to be in the group they went a day’s journey, but then they began to search for him among their relatives and acquaintances, and when they did not find him, they returned to Jerusalem, searching for him. After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers. And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.” And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?” And they did not understand the saying that he spoke to them. And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and was submissive to them. And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.
Pray
Jesus asked to know
Jesus asked to know
I came across the following ideas while researching this message:
Jesus was God and so knew everything from birth. He could speak every language, understood every concept, and could have built a circuit board should the need have arisen with his tiny baby hands.
Jesus wasn’t God until after his baptism, which is why he didn’t know all of that.
Both answers represent heresies which have been around as long as the church. Either Jesus was God with a little man thrown in, or he was a man who became God. The impossibility of one man being fully God is just too much to believe.
You’ve probably all heard how marriage isn’t 50/50. It’s 100/100. Both have to be all in for it to work. Well, to have a proper understanding of Christ, we have to recognize the same thing. As impossible as it is, Jesus was 100/100. In some impossible way, God had condescended to us, in other words, he willingly lowered himself to us. To be with us, he became us.
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
Yes, there is example after example of Jesus knowing things he could not know, but the inference is that this was because he was filled and being led by the Holy Spirit. In other words, when Jesus knew the thoughts of a man, he knew them the same way the man who laid his hands upon my shoulders, having never met me before to call me to action on the very thing going through my mind at the time. I felt called to ministry, but I also felt unsure and hesitant. God, through the Holy Spirit, used that man to call me out in a way I could listen.
Jesus, apart from the Holy Spirit, needed to ask questions if he was going to learn, just like you.
If you need proof Jesus didn’t know everything take a look at
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
He had to learn how to be a carpenter.
He had to learn how to talk, walk, feed himself
He had to learn how to read, write, and do math
What an amazing thing. Really consider this. Even if I could shrink my body to my six year old self, I could pretend to not know things…but I still would. I could probably fake not knowing high school algebra…but only because I’ve forgotten everything I learned already.
Jesus asked to know God
Jesus asked to know God
Wow…This one…wow...
Let’s go back to our story:
luke 2:46-
After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers.
He had a high aptitude for getting to know God, but he still asked questions and listened to answers.
He would have studied and meditated upon the scripture. He read, asked, learned...
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all that he himself is doing. And greater works than these will he show him, so that you may marvel.
For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak. And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has told me.”
john
Jesus never quit seeking a deeper relationship with his father. We haven’t even touched the passages where Jesus steps away to pray and seek God the father, to know his will, his heart.
What is truly remarkable about this, is that we have the same access to God, the same opportunity to build relationship with him. Through his word, through prayer, and through coming together to learn and grow, we can be like Jesus in our relationship with God.
Jesus asked to grow
Jesus asked to grow
Disclaimer: I am not about to make the statement that Jesus sinned.
But Jesus made mistakes. And Jesus learned from them.
back to our story again:
And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.” And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?” And they did not understand the saying that he spoke to them. And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and was submissive to them. And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.
luke 2:48-
For those teens at home: Is it ever ok to disappear from home for a few days without telling your mother where you have gone? What if it’s to go to church camp? What if it’s to read your bible for 72 hours straight with your cell phone off?
The answer is NO! Jesus was so comfortable in the temple (not a bad thing) that he wasn’t paying attention when his parent’s left.
If we still want to argue that he was right in this, look at verse 51 again:
And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and was submissive to them. And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart.
Then he was submissive to them. He recognized his behavior had caused his mother distressed, and it was unwarranted, so he didn’t do it again.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.
And then in verse 52 we get the definitive evidence: Jesus increased in wisdom, stature, and favor. Jesus grew as he learned.
Hebrews 5:
gives us another example:
In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him, being designated by God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.
Even up to the cross...
Jesus asked to know us
Jesus asked to know us
As mentioned, occasionally, the Holy Spirit would give Jesus direct information about a person, but even then, Jesus almost always asked questions and was even surprised by people.
After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, in Aramaic called Bethesda, which has five roofed colonnades. In these lay a multitude of invalids—blind, lame, and paralyzed. One man was there who had been an invalid for thirty-eight years. When Jesus saw him lying there and knew that he had already been there a long time, he said to him, “Do you want to be healed?”
John 5:
When he had entered Capernaum, a centurion came forward to him, appealing to him, “Lord, my servant is lying paralyzed at home, suffering terribly.” And he said to him, “I will come and heal him.” But the centurion replied, “Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof, but only say the word, and my servant will be healed. For I too am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. And I say to one, ‘Go,’ and he goes, and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes, and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” When Jesus heard this, he marveled and said to those who followed him, “Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith.
“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 5:
John 6:66-
After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?” Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.” Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve? And yet one of you is a devil.”
And there was a woman who had had a discharge of blood for twelve years, and who had suffered much under many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was no better but rather grew worse. She had heard the reports about Jesus and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his garment. For she said, “If I touch even his garments, I will be made well.” And immediately the flow of blood dried up, and she felt in her body that she was healed of her disease. And Jesus, perceiving in himself that power had gone out from him, immediately turned about in the crowd and said, “Who touched my garments?”
Mark 5:25-
Bottom line: Jesus wanted to know people.
In the same way we grow together through the asking of questions and the sharing of stories, he did the same. He still does the same.
Conclusion
Conclusion
Worship and prayer team up
Today consider this:
One of the great logic arguments against an all powerful God goes like this:
Can God make a rock so big he can not lift it?
If he can’t make a rock that big, he isn’t all powerful
If he does, and can’t lift it, he isn’t all powerful
(boy we are a clever species)
Because in Christ we see God’s answer: I am so big, I can make myself small. I can limit myself to the point where I can’t pick up that rock. Where the only way I move a mountain is by prayer.
Jesus became like us, learned like us, grew like us, and then in full submission to his father, died for us, as one of us.
This morning, respond to the call to know him better as he knows you better.
Whether for the first time or once again come to the one who emptied himself that you might be filled.
Pray