Forsaken
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King James Version Chapter 27
Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
The New King James Version Chapter 27
45 pNow from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. 46 And about the ninth hour qJesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, r“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
English Standard Version Chapter 27
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus jcried out with a loud voice, saying, k“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
If you’ve been in church for any length of time and listen to the preacher, you’ve heard great news concerning God never leaving us . You’ve heard things like God will never forsaken His children and leave them alone.
You’ve heard scriptures like.........
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I‘ve been young and now I am old, Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken Nor his seed begging bread.
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When my father and my mother have forsaken me, then the LORD will take me up.
| I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
So being forsaken by God is not something that seems normal as a christian. Even when Jesus let the disciple know that He was going away but he would not leave them confortless.
He told them that If He did not leave them, the comforter would not come.
So the notion the idea and concept is that God is not one who would ever leave His children.
So if this is true and the Bible is without error ,
How could God Forsake His Son
How could God Forsake His Son
If God is God, and is everywhere at the same time,
If God is Omni-Present, How Can God move to a place in time and space where He in not there. David writes in
7 Where can I go from Your Spirit?
Or where can I flee from Your presence?
8 If I ascend into heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in [c]hell, behold, You are there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning,
And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
10 Even there Your hand shall lead me,
And Your right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness shall [d]fall on me,”
Even the night shall be light about me;
12 Indeed, the darkness [e]shall not hide from You,
But the night shines as the day;
The darkness and the light are both alike to You.
if Jesus is in the Father and the Father in Him according to and if Jesus and the Father are one according to , How can one forsaken, abandon, desert, leave or remove himself from himself.
According to the scripture, God the father is in Jesus Christ the man and Jesus the man is in God the father, thus causing hypostatic union which describes God the almighty divine deity, and Jesus the Christ the Son of the Living God to be both human and divine. In other words God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son of God are all wrapped up in one. Thus causing hyperstatic union
in the beginning was the Word and the was with God and the Word was God,
in the beginning was the Word and the was with God and the Word was God,
Verse 12 tells us that He
King James Version Chapter 1
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him
Wait a minute i undestand
God and sin are not compatible. God hates sin and all unrighteousnes. If God stays in a hyperstatic union with his son on Calvery’s cross, then God becomes that which he hates and becomes un-holy. His Word becomes a lie, His promises become untrue. His Prophetic Scriptures become unforefilled, The work of reconciling us back to God can not Be completed with God and Jesus Christ in Hyperstatic unity.
No weapon, guns, knives, canons or nuclear power can hurt or kill God, pain is bearable, sickness is healable, mountains are movable, valleys are crossable, There is nothing impossible for God. No one can take His life, but He freely lays down his life for us. As long as God is in union with Jesus the Christ, He can not be a sin offering, for without the shedding of the blood there is no remission of Sin .
Jesus Has to Die and God has to allow it to happen.
King James Version Chapter 5
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
Father Father why hast thou forsaken me
It’s dark There is no light in sin, Man rather darkness that light, The angels are restrained, Michael the arch angel in all of his military ability has to stand down, Gabriel has no Word to deliver from God. There is no record of the heavenly host of seraphim and cherubim singing and worshiping .
God removes Himself from himself, takes His hand off of Himself, Hold himself back from of himself, in order to let prophecy be forefilled in order deem His Word true. I am the resurrection and the life, If they destroy the tabaacale in three days I’ll raise it up again.
And Jesus is now experiencing the agony of lonleness, and abandonment. God is there
God allows His son to suffer to be the sin offering so that grace may abide. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
and say eli eli lam sabacthini. He knows what it is to feel the presence of His father,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
It’s dark There is no light in sin, Man rather darkness that light, The angels are restrained, Michael the arch angel in all of his military ability has to stand down, Gabriel has no Word to deliver from God. There is no record of the heavenly host of seraphim and cherubim singing and worshiping .
Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
I am the Lamb that taketh away the sins of the world
God removes Himself from himself, takes His hand off of Himself, Hold himself back from of himself, in order to let prophecy be forefilled in order deem His Word true.
I am the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the World.
I am the righteous Lamb of God.
Because of Jesus Christ He will never leave nor forsaken you.
Because of this separation Jesus was able to bear our sin and cover us with his Blood
And Jesus is now experiencing the agony of lonleness, and abandonment.
What Can wash away my sins Nothing but the Blood of Jesus
8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
and say eli eli lam sabacthini. He knows what it is to feel the presence of His father,
It’s dark There is no light in sin, Man rather darkness that light, The angels are restrained, Michael the arch angel in all of his military ability has to stand down, Gabriel has no Word to deliver from God. There is no record of the heavenly host of seraphim and cherubim singing and worshiping .
God removes Himself from himself, takes His hand off of Himself, Hold himself back from of himself, in order to let prophecy be forefilled in order deem His Word true.
And Jesus is now experiencing the agony of lonleness, and abandonment.
and say eli eli lam sabacthini. He knows what it is to feel the presence of His father,
It’s dark There is no light in sin, Man rather darkness that light, The angels are restrained, Michael the arch angel in all of his military ability has to stand down, Gabriel has no Word to deliver from God. There is no record of the heavenly host of seraphim and cherubim singing and worshiping .
God removes Himself from himself, takes His hand off of Himself, Hold himself back from of himself, in order to let prophecy be forefilled in order deem His Word true.
And Jesus is now experiencing the agony of lonleness, and abandonment.
and say eli eli lam sabacthini. He knows what it is to feel the presence of His father,
The New King James Version Psalm 27
When my father and my mother forsake me,
Then the LORD will take care of me.
King James Version Chapter 5
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
King James Version Chapter 5
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
FORSA'KE, v.t. pret. forsook; pp. forsaken. See Seek .
1. To quit or leave entirely; to desert; to abandon; to depart from. Friends and flatterers forsake us in adversity.
Forsake the foolish, and live. .
2. To abandon; to renounce; to reject.
If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments - .
Cease from anger, and forsake wrath. .
3. To leave; to withdraw from; to fail. In anger, the color forsakes the cheeks. In severe trials, let not fortitude forsake you.
4. In scripture, God forsakes his people, when he withdraws his aid, or the light of his countenance.
forsake
forsake
FORSA'KE, v.t. pret. forsook; pp. forsaken. See Seek .
1. To quit or leave entirely; to desert; to abandon; to depart from. Friends and flatterers forsake us in adversity.
Forsake the foolish, and live. .
2. To abandon; to renounce; to reject.
If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments - .
Cease from anger, and forsake wrath. .
3. To leave; to withdraw from; to fail. In anger, the color forsakes the cheeks. In severe trials, let not fortitude forsake you.
4. In scripture, God forsakes his people, when he withdraws his aid, or the light of his countenance.
1. To quit or leave entirely; to desert; to abandon; to depart from. Friends and flatterers forsake us in adversity.
2. To abandon; to renounce; to reject.
If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments - .
Cease from anger, and forsake wrath. .
3. To leave; to withdraw from; to fail. In anger, the color forsakes the cheeks. In severe trials, let not fortitude forsake you.
4. In scripture, God forsakes his people, when he withdraws his aid, or the light of his countenance
If God is God, and is everywhere at the same time,
If God is Omni-Present, How Can God move to a place in time and space where He in not there. David writes in
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.
O Lord, thou hast searched me, and known me.
Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising,
Thou understandest my thought afar off.
Thou compassest my path and my lying down,
And art acquainted with all my ways.
For there is not a word in my tongue,
But, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether.
Thou hast beset me behind and before,
And laid thine hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
It is high, I cannot attain unto it.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit?
Or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there:
If I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
If I take the wings of the morning,
And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
Even there shall thy hand lead me,
And thy right hand shall hold me.
If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me;
Even the night shall be light about me.
Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee;
But the night shineth as the day:
The darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
For thou hast possessed my reins:
Thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made:
Marvellous are thy works;
And that my soul knoweth right well.
My substance was not hid from thee,
When I was made in secret,
And curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect;
And in thy book all my members were written,
Which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God!
How great is the sum of them!
If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand:
When I awake, I am still with thee.
Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God:
Depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
For they speak against thee wickedly,
And thine enemies take thy name in vain.
Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee?
And am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
I hate them with perfect hatred:
I count them mine enemies.
Search me, O God, and know my heart:
Try me, and know my thoughts:
And see if there be any wicked way in me,
And lead me in the way everlasting.
Psalms 139
Whither shall I go from thy spirit?
Or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there:
If I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
If I take the wings of the morning,
And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
Even there shall thy hand lead me,
And thy right hand shall hold me.
If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me;
Even the night shall be light about me.
Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee;
But the night shineth as the day:
The darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
Psalms 139:7-12
7 Where can I go from Your Spirit?
Or where can I flee from Your presence?
8 If I ascend into heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in [c]hell, behold, You are there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning,
And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
10 Even there Your hand shall lead me,
And Your right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness shall [d]fall on me,”
Even the night shall be light about me;
12 Indeed, the darkness [e]shall not hide from You,
But the night shines as the day;
The darkness and the light are both alike to You.
If God is in Jesus and Jesus is in God,
If
if Jesus is in the Father and the Father in Him according to and if Jesus and the Father are one according to , How can one forsaken, abandon, desert, leave or remove himself from himself. According to the scripture, God the father is in Jesus Christ the man and Jesus the man is in God the father, thus causing hypostatic union which describes God the almighty divine deity, and Jesus the Christ the Son of the Living God to be both human and divine. In other words God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son of God are all wrapped up in one. Thus causing hyperstatic union
Psalms 139:7-
in the beginning was the Word and the was with God and the Word was God,
Verse 12 tells us that He
King James Version Chapter 1
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
Wait a minute i undestand
God and sin are not compatible. God hates sin and all unrighteousnes. If God stays in a hyperstatic union with his son on Calvery’s cross, then God becomes that which he hates and becomes un-holy. His Word becomes a lie, His promises become untrue. His Prophetic Scriptures become unforefilled, The work of reconciling us back to God can not Be completed with God and Jesus Christ in Hyperstatic unity.
No weapon, guns, knives, canons or nuclear power can hurt or kill God, pain is bearable, sickness is healable, mountains are movable, valleys are crossable, There is nothing impossible for God. No one can take His life, but He freely lays down his life for us. As long as God is in union with Jesus the Christ, He can not be a sin offering, for without the shedding of the blood there is no remission of Sin .
Father Father why hast thou forsaken me
God removes Himself from himself, takes His hand off of Himself, Hold himself back from of himself, in order to let prophecy be forefilled in order deem His Word true.
And Jesus is now experiencing the agony of lonleness, and abandonment.
and say eli eli lam sabacthini. He knows what it is to feel the presence of His father,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
King James Version Chapter 1
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
I am the Lamb that taketh away the sins of the world
I am the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the World.
I am the righteous Lamb of God
Because of Jesus Christ He will never leave nor forsaken you.
Because of this separation Jesus was able to bear our sin and cover us with his Blood
What Can wash away my sins Nothing but the Blood of Jesus
8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;