The Nano Second you STOP Believing!

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I use to believe in Eternal Security or once saved always saved. Now I don’t. Now I believe you can lose your salvation.
Some in the Once saved always saved camp think that if you don’t believe in eternal security then you are going to hell because you are putting your salvation in works.
But what about someone like me who USE to believe in once saved/always saved but now doesn’t?
They would rationize it by saving “You were never saved”.
I am saved by the atoning sacrifice and blood of Jesus. Nothing less. Nothing more. That has not and will not change.
Now There is a Pastor named Joel Olsteen…I mean Tim Henderson on Youtube. He teaches once saved always saved and shares visions and prophecies.
The bible warns us about false teachers and prophets...
says...
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
He and His followers are teaching the doctrine of demons. They are teaching from a spirit of hypocrisy. Saying you can profess Jesus with your mouth but then go on denying Him with your lifestyle
He and His followers are teaching the doctrine of demons. They are teaching from a spirit of hypocrisy. Saying you can profess Jesus with your mouth but then go on denying Him with your lifestyle
Just one act of hypocrisy can create a huge domino effect causing major damage in both the natural and supernatural realm.
The direct opposite of this spirit is righteousness. When you are truly walking in righteousness the spirit of hypocrisy will be unable to stand in our presence under the authority we have in Christ Jesus.
Now this false teacher says “The Nano second you believe you are saved and sealed hallaluah. As says …Jesus died for our sins, was buried and on the third day he raised from the dead.
(KJV 1900)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Now I agree with everything he says up to that point…until he says that we can’t lose our salvation...
Salvation isn’t something to be lost like saying “I lost my car keys”. I think better terminology would be that we can forfeit our salvation!
MEANING OF BELIEVING
The word “believe” in the Bible means more than simply agreeing in our minds that something might be true. It means “trust”—that we believe so strongly in God that we are willing to commit our lives to Him and live the way we know He wants us to live.
Suppose you were walking along a path and you came to a bridge which crossed a deep canyon. You might look at it and believe that it would hold you, and you might even see other people walking across it so you know it would hold your weight. But so far, your “belief” in the bridge is only in your head. When do you really believe the bridge will hold you? You only really believe it when you are willing to commit your life to it and actually walk across it.
It is the same way with Christ. Yes, we can believe that God exists, but God wants us to come to know Him personally. And He has bridged the gap between us by sending His Son to remove the barrier of sin and become that “bridge.” To believe in Christ is to commit our lives by faith to Christ.
SEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
Scripture teaches that when a person believes Jesus Christ died for our sins and was resurrected, and responds by repenting of their sins and yielding their self to God, they become a Christian and are sealed by the Holy Spirit. The New Testament states three times that Christians are sealed by the Holy Spirit.
The first time is in . Here we are told that God the Father has sealed us and the Holy Spirit is in our hearts as a pledge.
. . . who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge. (NASB)
The pledge is a promise, but of what is it a promise? The answer is given in the next verse.
The second time that sealing is mentioned is in where Christians are told that they are sealed by the Holy Spirit as a promise of our future inheritance — heaven!
In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation — having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory. (NASB)
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Again we are told that the Holy Spirit is a pledge or a promise of a Christian’s future inheritance. It is important to know that the word for “pledge” in both and comes from the same Greek word, arrabon, which means “earnest-money” or a “deposit.” That is, at the moment of saving faith, when the Holy Spirit is placed within a Christian, the Spirit is the “earnest-money” or “deposit” that promises future eternal life.
“Earnest-money” is defined as a small portion of money that is given as a promise by the purchaser that he or she will pay all of the money required to purchase some property. When the Holy Spirit indwells a Christian, He is God’s earnest-money or pledge that the person will go to heaven.
The third passage that speaks of Christians being sealed by the Holy Spirit is .
Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. (NASB)
The Greek word for “sealed” in both verses is sphragizo and it means “to set a seal upon.” The purpose of the seal was to demonstrate authenticity or ownership. It is clear from that the seal proved ownership.
It reminds me of when you put a security deposit on a house. Now you have to live in it and take care of it. You need to be a good steward of what you have been given. You have a responsibility to it’s well being. If you aren’t responsible with it then at the end you won’t be given that security deposit back.
This is the same way with God. He gives us grace. Although unmerited. We are responsible which is the ability to respond because of the gift of free will God has bestowed on us as we are co-heirs with Christ!
As says...
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Another verse the once saved always saved camp uses is....
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Cornerstone Biblical Commentary: John, 1 John, 2 John, & 3 John Notes

Arminians accept the security of the believer but believe it is conditional rather than unconditional—that is, God keeps believers secure, but we are responsible to avail ourselves of his power. In John, there are not only the examples of 6:60–66 and 17:12 but the warning passage of 15:1–6, stating that if those who are in Jesus quit bearing fruit, they will be “thrown away … wither … [and be] gathered into a pile to be burned.” Outside John, Arminians appeal to such passages as Heb 6:4–6; 10:26–31; Jas 5:19–20; 2 Pet 2:20–21; 1 John 5:16. In other words, they believe that God keeps us secure but that there is a real danger of rejecting his security and turning our backs on Christ. As Witherington says, “God’s role in the relationship is incomparably greater than the human one, but the fact remains that God does not and will not save a person without the positive human response, called faith, to the divine leading and drawing”

Now we can accept the security of the believer but belief is conditional rather than unconditional—that is, God keeps believers secure, but we are responsible to avail ourselves of his power. In John, there are not only the examples of 6:60–66 and 17:12 but the warning passage of 15:1–6, stating that if those who are in Jesus quit bearing fruit, they will be “thrown away … wither … [and be] gathered into a pile to be burned.” Outside John, we can appeal to such passages as
(KJV 1900)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
(KJV 1900)
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(KJV
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
(KJV 1900)
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
and .
But many in the Once saved always saved camp will say that many of these verses don’t apply to us today...
BUT...
says...
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
So yeah…there’s that!
there is a real danger of rejecting his security and turning our backs on Christ. “God’s role in the relationship is incomparably greater than the human one, but the fact remains that God does not and will not save a person without the positive human response, called faith and belief to the divine leading and drawing”
In other words, they believe God keeps us secure but that there is a real danger of rejecting his security and turning our backs on Christ. As Witherington says, “God’s role in the relationship is incomparably greater than the human one, but the fact remains that God does not and will not save a person without the positive human response, called faith, to the divine leading and drawing”
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So yes, the nano second you stop believing you will forfeit your salvation. I rebuke Tim Henderson and his followers. You need to stop
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