Wisdom from the Wisemen

Just born Bethlehem to Jerusalem during the reign of King Herod and after Jesus birth a group of spiritual priest. Are you wise man in the Christmas story came to Jerusalem and inquired of the people? Where is the child who is born King of the Jewish people? We have deserved his star rising in the sky and we've come to Bow before him and worship, read the story are pretty familiar. Where's the wise men Story how many have a nativity scene how many wise men are there? All right in the Bible doesn't actually say three wise men just three different kinds of gifts, but could have been a whole group of these guys. It probably was a whole group of these guys. We don't know a lot about it. If you like it this story it really creates a ton of questions doesn't it to which we have very little information other than let me just read you out of the passion translation. There's a commentary for the word that is used in the Greek is astrologers. So stargazers now when I say astrology horoscope in there to the starts now, it's interesting because these guys came from the East probably Persia. All right. Now this is going to be able to sense astrologers known a dream interpreters interpreting dreams. But this word in the Greek word through the stars and some kind of celestial if you will connect, it's already it's just raising more questions. That sounds more like a dog with an Entourage for protection as officials from the East the Great War is taken from the main language in means spiritual advisors. Gay or simply priest so refined, you know, I think a lot of times we take Imagine This American teens, you know, it's not really in the word. So we three kings of Orient are these were appointed these spiritual advisor. These megas were appointed by Darius was the king who had been the King of Persia over the state religion as Priests of Persian. In Persia, does anybody know where person is in modern-day Iran guys are these are like really high high ranking guys, and it says by the time of Jesus's birth. Persia had been conquered by and was ruled by by Governors set up by Alexander the Great. So if you remember remember history lesson Alexander the Great comes out a grease gun, and he has to eat and he actually takes over and conquered Persia. Then he has even farther you someday Indian the whole thing when he died his Empire get split up into one of his Governors is actually kind of West and East Connection are at the time of Jesus birth. The travel probably would have taken 5 to 8 months. Okay, but that doesn't mean that that's the first time they saw the star so we don't know really the time frame but according to ancient travel and how far things are probably 5 to 8 months. But what we do know is they pick up this star will get to that little bit in the store, but it's an interesting connection because these magazines that are in the Greek goddess Greek word. They they have a tie back to Daniel The Book of Daniel and it's such a thing the Prophet Daniel is giving the title if you return with 2 inch and genuine 5 the title of chief of the magio for the Mega that same word, so we find that Daniels Jewish influence into the cords and the Beast astrologers. If you will these free he was the chief of these magnets are these Maggie on Possible that what Daniel taught them had been passed down all the way to these three and we'll say three kings was probably more than that. But these these these Stargazer astrologers had some connection through Daniel and the prophetic down now if you can kind of see if they can send a text while in Persia Daniel goes to each of these guys now he comes to Jesus being born. They see something in the heavens. It is totally different and they refer to it as his star so they they understand that Israel has been cut off from God for Exile and they've been punished but that at some point Daniel prophesied and talk to you guys will probably that now and they notice something in the heavens if I passed down from Daniel is a full circle. That's that's that's One man's opinion or a bad thing, but it does seem by using the same word in the Greek that they have in the medo-persian Empire that there is probably some connection to Daniel. I just thought that was and how they figured out the star and all that. We don't really know what we do know this first three King Herod was shaken to the core when he heard the number one what they going to ask first two pieces. Where is this child is born a king of the Jewish people but Herod the king and all the sudden he gets these guys coming back with the astrological on situation before him first three, he's shaken to the core not only him but all of Jerusalem was Disturbed when they heard the new number. Jeopardy questions when you're ready man over the years are red in the whole city know what's going on.

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I saw the whole city knew they did just come to hear nobody three guys on a cantaloupe and strawberries from the East that would have created a buzz in Jerusalem. I don't even know if he's been any if you're studying history about he's he's powerful and insecure at the same time. Heard is the guy that killed several of his own Sons so they couldn't rise up and take his place. He's a very evil Wicked but he's very insecure Nike there was a there was a conspiracy behind every crazy kills a couple of them understand. I mean just crazy Paranoid lyrics where's where's the king of the Jews same kind of see how paranoid hairdos like

Call this meeting of the newest beats room Scholars demanding that they tell him where the promised Messiah was prophesied to be born again. Let's get the contacts this there has been a over 400 year gap between the last prophetic word and now. Sahara, can you imagine how he's probably sensing a certain Destiny 2 this whole thing, you know, I don't he's a paranoid about the whole thing thing, but born King of the Jews and star and the Messiah did he finally show up? Are most Jewish people just so we're on the same page most Jewish people. interpreted the prophecies about the Messiah to be he's going to come in powerful and hot and Liberate the Jewish people. So who is ruling over the Jewish people as a whole at this point? Anybody know Rome Rome has a heavy thumb but they also put leaders from the people in charge so long as in charge of the whole Known World, basically, they put hair in charge of this reason a woman thing hovering over him as well. That's a really interesting situation. But he's Jewish enough to understand that those prophecies about the Messiah in a literally like doesn't do over a hundred of these things just a ton of prophecies different ones. So we're going to check the records. They check the Torah they check out everything and they come back verse 5 & 6 they say he will be born in Bethlehem in the land of Judah because the prophecy state has a lot of Micah and you little Bethlehem are not insignificant among the clans of Judah for out of you will emerge the shepherd king of My People Israel. So they haven't answer. And I'd only have an answer to the the star and the king and all that but they also have the location. So what we know about. It's not good. He wants to stay King at all costs. He hears this prophecy and he starts screaming starts a plan. 478 says it's been married secretly summon the spiritual priest from the he's to ascertain the exact time to start first appeared and he told them now go to Bethlehem and cheerfully look there for the child and when you found him report to me so that I can go and buy down and worship him to In stock currently spiritual priests astrologers Kings with her off, They were really good with the Stars, but they probably didn't read people too. Well, there's this evil thing but does he look like they're not picking up on his plan and on their way to Bethlehem suddenly the same star appeared Zips thing in it, like it must have disappeared at some time. And then now.

The Bible doesn't tell us anymore. I'm just going to throw in my two cents. Are you ready?

in our lives Has God ever guy to do to a certain point and then was silent?

you were supposed to obey him up to a certain point and then play a lot of times with the stop leak expected to keep doing exactly the same thing. But sometimes I think the Walk of Faith involves trusting him at home. Okay, that's the next. Okay, I'll take that next step and then you wait for your next orders some of your in the military. I know Joe and had you in the most medals in the military. Just tell you your part and what you're supposed to do next, right? Yeah, and you say right have to get them from Persia all the way over here to get to Jerusalem and okay. So that's there looking up at the stars and they're going okay. Okay, I think it's Jerusalem.

But apparently the started kind of disappear so they come back out and they're like, okay these guys they don't know personal politics. You don't hear it in the office. But they do no stars man, and they see this star and they go okay. When is the second part of the plan after they have this meeting they look up and they find the star and the same star that they had seen in the East what is it? Say reappear? Where's the fuse to take away I think sometimes you know, sometimes we get we get wrapped up in doing the thing that God has told us to do and we think that's it. That's all of it. Sometimes I think in church has there been in a church that stuck in like the previous decade. Cuz they obey then they came out a certain direction, but then they didn't seek God for the next revelation of the next part of that. You never forget. I've been around a long time. I was born in 65 and that's it. I've been in church or since I've been a lot of years we traveled around you ever remember maybe you guys didn't do this but a lot of churches there was a song back in the seventeenth in the seventies called on the family of God.

Show me The Conjuring up in in Sauk Centre Minnesota. It was in the 2000 Juno and we went and visited this church for some event and Pastor gets out in the US are welcome song and greet one another as we saying. I'm so glad and I'm sitting here looking at the gun 1973 or whatever when it first came out every greeting every service and every time And we laughed at it cuz we're like wow, this church is stuck. It was as if God really spoke to me and I think this is what one of the things always be ready for your marching orders, even if they're different from your last ones or if you know like in the case of these magic, it's the same star but it had disappeared. You sometimes I think of my life God will disappear from us. But he still expects us to look and it kind of goes back to this whole thing in the sky and the suddenly thing like why did the Stars stop shining for a while? no idea other then

when the Magi came out and they started going again the star came back on. And it was quite how did they know the star came back on? Because they were looking for the sticker. They were looking for the next thing the star had brought them this far and then went out for some reason. We don't know why and got fully expected them to keep looking keep in touch and look to the heavens if you will for their next step in the journey. I just want to hear Yesterday if you feel sometimes like the light goes out if the plan kind of just keep trusting and just keep looking keep looking to the heavens. Keep looking to God for the next part of the journey. You say Melanie. Bruce Niners at Natalie Last Stand on their way to Bethlehem suddenly the same star they had seen in the East reappeared amazed they want as it went ahead of them and stopped directly over the place where the child was from the East they see the star before they would have appeared to be stationary only this next part of the journey. The star is moving. So it's it's the saying that it's different are you dragging me? Recipe department store is so cool like that says yeah, you know, I'm one of those that believes that the manger scenes you have in your living room or wrong. The shepherds in the Wiseman weren't there on the same day. It's probable based on what are does next that Jesus was upwards of two years old? The star stops directly over the place where the child was I when they saw the star they were so ecstatic that they shouted and celebrated for the unrestrained in the commentary for the passion translation. It says the Greek is really hard to translate for this verse. The Greek is hard to translate since it contains so many redundant word for joy in this one verse literally this what it should read. They rejoiced with great joy, exceedingly, like you can't cram enough Joy, you know one verse is what what it what the Greek is really saying like these guys were like we can use all our modern terms. They were still they were they were ripped like they were so excited to see this boy. To see it again, isn't it? Interesting? They had some kind of knowledge that there was a person involved in a boy who was the star of to be and reinforces the Daniel influence all the way over in Persian that these guys had some prior knowledge and understanding of Jewish scriptures and the Messiah and all that stuff so that they show up and days guys are excited. They were stabbing the joyful verse 11 that goes on when it came to the house and saw the young child. She says young child there. It's a little bit different than baby, but it came with the house and saw that your child with Mary his mother. They were overcome. Imagine how excited they are. They they can't even express it on seeing the star there that excited about the star. Can you imagine what it actually stops over this house and they come in and see Jesus. They are there over the top. They are so excited. They were overcome.

Falling to the ground at his feet. They worship Him. Again, if you don't factor in the fact that threw Daniel these guys had some knowledge of who it was they were looking at why would they be so and I'm saying if there would be any sense to that some guys in the East Pershing a whole nother religion stargazers Beyonce had to be some connection to that star that boy the prophecies that are finally coming true after 400 years. visiting interesting Looking for how many kings astrologers are many of these guys there on actually get it where most of the Israelites didn't. Foreigners. I'm Jewish people. get it better than images Grateful Dead What's the Westin for us? Think about who these guys just think about we know, but what are they doing? They're looking to the heavens and the sky with knowledge of the whole Jewish Messiah thing, I believe and they're anticipating there looking when something changes. Guess what they noticed? I think sometimes a Christian special American Christians. Thanks God for at the side of the head for us to notice. Any other reason why we take so long with worship is you know, what are we saying this morning? But has become more aware. How's your present your goodness your spear? Right? Cuz I think God can do a lot with people that are looking for him to move and The Next Step In the Journey. What he doesn't really want is a bunch of religious people doing the same thing and having their plans and purposes, which is really what Jesus is to the Shepherds. Who are the nothing's of society. And then we got Marion Zacharia, and then I think Anna later on a little bit some of the religious but under the radar.

And then it's like he lives his life and pops up 33 years later, but there were people that actually were anticipating and waiting and we're ready when he did show up. I would just say this God let us be those people. Can I use can stay the same until they're not the same. I know that sounds so wise isn't it? But it's not true with hope I just feel like these guys give us an example to follow up in ready to move. Angry cost like they know where is a long ways away. However long it took them to get there and now we're going to see it says that they were over, then they open their treasure boxes full of gifts. I presented him with gold frankincense. And myrrh, and of course, that's where we get to three kings because of the three different kind of gift, but it doesn't say that that was the only guess cuz it says they open up the treasure boxes. And the three Biggie's happened to be gold which is obviously the number one commodity, then all the way through today gold is a thing frankincense was a spice used for a lot of different things, but it was very expensive and it was it wasn't common place in anyconnect you had a gift and it was frankincense. Like I told me overwhelmed you. I think the frankincense is kind of that way cold can imagine now we always come from the assumption that Mary and Joseph were poor.

But from this point on. Even if they were born to be don't know for sure, but what's going on? They won the lottery. This was a huge bunch of money and expensive things all the way to merge, which also is one of those spices. If not, then it's very expensive and I actually used for for burial. They would put murder on people when they will wrap him up and put him in then put them in the grave which I think is pretty cool of scripture to throw them in there for are coming lamb was going to take away the sins of the world and died for our sins One Day by Mary and Joseph are now set they are wealthy from this point on. Okay, you don't have a lot of time you go into more than that, but let's let's finish up first while we return to their own country by another route because God had wanted warned them in a dream. To go back to here. This is so I mean, I wish we had more time.

Marinate it's a visitation from an angel Supernatural thing. Joseph has a dream telling him to marry. Marry you on that now telling them what to do. Joseph gets three more Heavenly visitation dreams that tell him what to do and where to go. So right after this Joseph has a dream Angela Ward versus real quick first 13 and flee to Egypt take Mary had a little child and stay there until I tell you to leave for Heritage answer search for the child to kill you. Reverend Joseph gets up and took me Jesus and his mother and made their escape to Egypt and remain there until Herod die all of this fulfilled what the Lord has spoken through his Prophet. I will summon my son out of Egypt to believe that was a reminder to send it. So they go to they go they take off that night my head over because here is about to do something or 4:16 when he realized he was infuriated. So he sent Soldiers with orders to slaughter every day before two years old and younger think that plan and throughout the surrounding Countryside based on the time frame. He was given from interrogating the wise men.

British 17 this before the words of the Prophet Jeremiah. I hear the screams of Anguish weeping and wailing and Ramah Rachel is weeping uncontrollably for children and she refuses to be comforted because they are dead and gone.

You know that this particular Christmas passage is a priest allowed in churches Christmas Sunday. You understand what this versus thing.

It's saying. that God told Jeremiah upwards of five hundred more years before this that there was going to be coming his son the Messiah was going to come to Earth and as a result of that. Are everybody else's baby boys, we're going to be killed.

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I think God didn't change the plan. He's still sent his son to Earth knowing that to fulfill that prophecy this prophecy that he had given Jeremiah 500 years ago was going to be that all of the mothers Rama is another word. They use for Judah. So all of them the mothers of drama Rachel is are Weeping. They lost all their baby voice.

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When your baby is the most important cuz he's the Messiah the Son of God I get it but at least other babies are pretty important. So Rama often times equals Judah and Rachel refers to the people so Rama is the location Rachel is the Jewish people are using the word Rachel in the woman form Nicki for the people because it's the people have given birth the women are giving birth to a female version of calling him Judah and the people of God is really

River Cruise along pretty good there for a while you hit this story and I'm telling you it is really hard story back in a couple months ago. We were talking in Bible study about when Abraham is given the prophetic word that through him all nations on Earth will be blasting. I will bless those who bless you get. All the nation of Israel is going to be blessed to Abraham goes on Lil Bit farther and God tells him in a prophetic prophetic words. All of your descendants is going to be a time for 488 480 years are going to be in bondage in another country and they're going to be slaves. God knew that Israelites were going to go to Egypt and be slaves in bondage for 400 years from the beginning. It was part of God's plan that they do in this slavery in this bondage in this horrible place so that he can then deliver them back home. Does it not blow your mind that God knows exactly how those different theories on why they were bonded so long and some of that stuff. We don't really need to go there many years were going to be the same and that was Generations before they actually happen Abraham Isaac Jacob and that his son's is Joseph multiple more Generations until they're finally relieved.

I'm going to say to that tonight again. There are parts of God. I do not understand. This verse the Rama the Weeping the destruction of a babies and I don't. Break it up. I mean, it's just too much that, other than

they're going to be things in her life that happened that we do not understand but one thing we are required to do is there there is no other God. And God is good. All the time you want. It looks like he's not. Have you ever had circumstances in your life and it looks like God isn't good. It'll be easier to take to declare that you're not good. Everything around me says you're not good. This happen cancer happened. This this person died or this horrible thing or lost my job or whatever. It looks like God's not good. I got the bottle says that he is good his love. Just because God knew that this was going to happen doesn't mean that he caused it to happen. You know, you could see two cars coming to an intersection, you know, they're going to hit but it's not your fault. City accident happens so I mean yes God is in control, but he also gives mankind free will. And we play out our Free Will and so is it wasn't God who killed The Six Million Jews during the Holocaust. No, did he allow it to happen? Yes result in. Israel in the nation today would I have chosen that plan? No, such thing as the first question that you're going to if you if you bring that argument to an unbeliever, or someone that you're having this discussion with they it won't fly what are they going to say? if God is so great why he's love why didn't change the plan and yeah, it's interesting because Understanding God's plan in his wisdom and something requires more than you would understand. It requires Supernatural faith. I'm saying this is really important for us because God wakens Joseph and says here's the stream. I want you to snatch up right now and get your wife and your son and all this new money. I gave you that I funded your trip to Egypt. You see that to each if they can get up and run in the middle of the night. Why because God knows that here is about to do a horrible nasty. God is good. God is love. God has a plan. I'm a Child of God. There's all these things that we find a scripture to be true. It is not easy to follow God. There's that cuz you know, I got to choose to be.

How do you know Christians like that? My brother and I think you wrote these words are pretty sure did and one of his songs. He says, how can I The Clay Pot raise my clay fist to God and crew The Potter's plan as soon as we do not have all the understanding and it's the thing that makes rain. Actually really hard cuz you're choosing to trust in someone. And his Perfection and perfect plan even though it looks horrible. and we were talking a little bit before I can what will touch on this next Sunday as well cuz in John chapter 7 we find Jesus actually coming into conflict over out his brother's think and how he thinks and I'm in America in the Church of them in America. We are more concerned with not offending people. And having been come into our church and not be offended. Then we are about some of the truth of God's word. I believe this is true. If we're afraid or ashamed of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, we would have just done it wrong now have church has gone too far. And so, you know be very abrasive and weird and just horrible. The basic thing I'm trusting in Jesus. It's you know when Paul says I want to be like Christ and pain in the power of his resurrection. And then what does it say and his suffering we don't talk about suffering we don't talk about this is a hard part about fully trusting God, isn't it? This is Tom Wiseman Chevrolet.

Who knows how many hundreds of babies are killed and got his gates with his son but has the foreknowledge to bring these wise men from the East with a bunch of money to fund the trip South and back many scholars believe that the money that they got from the Wiseman actually funded their lines for the rest of your life. They were wealthy if you will the rest of their life cuz we're talkin about gold frankincense. And myrrh, just go with me next Sunday to make up for it after hair dyed the angel of the Lord appeared again.

How many times is God intersecting with Humanity, but even the whole death of the children thing is he knows what's going on? He's got a plan. He's funded it. He's telling people ahead of time does foreknowledge 500 years ago, and he just all of the prophetic words. And then sold to Joseph in a dream and says go back to the land of Israel and take the child and his mother with you for those who sought to kill the child I did. Can we see the prophetic Jenny see the Supernatural? Is it surrounded with questions? Like I don't even know if Joseph and Mary knew that Herod killed all the babies and we don't know that. I'm sure they probably heard about it eventually.

I'm sure they probably knew that it was because of their son that all these other people lost their sense. Tracing just blow your mind all day. So verse 21, he does it again wakes up. Mom takes Joseph and Mary Returns the land of Israel. Tell me about verse 22 says no when he heard that are Camellias grandson had succeeded him as ruler of all the territory. He was afraid to go back then he had another dream how many now for trees with directions for him? No dream from God warning him to avoid that region and striking the static of the province of Galilee. So he settled his family in the village of Nazareth the prophecy that would be known as that. You didn't ask the branch of the root word of Nazareth is the word for branch. So all those verses we find about Jesus being our God being the vine and where the funeral all the the metaphors that's where it comes from. So you heard that friend. Sorry, not sorry. Text me this morning. I'm sorry that we have this really kind of hard thing that we ended up with but I'm not really sorry. Why because I think to be a True Believer. You have got to March through the mud. You have got to plow through their ass if you don't. Address and you don't like none of the Bible talks about Jacob wrestling With God all night long. Feel like there are certain things in our life. We have got to wrestle with God. Sometimes church is going to come to church because prayer it's awesome last week and we pray for you and things work out and it's awesome. It's good, but there's some things that take a little more and you just have to get down and dirty with God's in God. I don't get what you're doing your show me what this is show me how to process this. If it's true that I don't have to process with my understanding then I got to find the mind of Christ.

Sound crazy with sorry, not sorry, but I feel like God is wanting to take us to deep Waters and cheaper places that I can't put on you. Somebody else can praying to you. You got to watch it out and figure out. Am I going to trust a guy that I don't completely understand? and if I do if I'm going to choose to do that Android you give me the thoughts I need to be to be successful and I was just going to speak life into each other right now and Good thing about this is that everybody's got different processes and ways of doing things my Lord, you know, each and everyone, you know, every thought of our mind, you know, every part of our being worst husband before we were even in our mother's womb you formed us and you made us and you crafted us and Lord, you know what you're doing. Forgot even in the midst of seeming Darkness even in the midst of Arizona not understanding even in this story. We see the prophets speaking hundreds of years before we see you speaking to to Pagan wise men to come east and be a huge part of the story and the provision for Marion and Joseph and Jesus are we see your hand at work and all these things and I asked about that you allowed to see your hand at work even in our lack of understanding.

And I pray that you allow us to be those that lean on you and not lean on ourselves. Mantis your thoughts your Revelation your ways. We asked you for that today in Jesus name. What does people say?