Matthew 18:20 2 or 3 = God is Present

Urban Legends- Bible Study  •  Sermon  •  Submitted
0 ratings
· 73 views

Urban Legends of the NT

Notes
Transcript

What verse(s) in the Bible when you hear them read or you think about give you a warm fuzzy feeling?

Why do you get this feeling?
What does this feeling mean to you?
Do you get this warm fuzzy feeling because you realize who God is and how much he loves you?
One such verse is Matthew 18:20.
Matthew 18:20 NIV
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
When or how have you heard this verse used?
I have often heard this verse used, at the start of a church service or prayer time when not many people are present. It almost like the person using this verse is saying, “it’s OK that not many are present, because Jesus is here with us.”
When used in this way, is this verse being used correctly?

A verse without a context is a pretext which means you have no text.

“In My Name”

the origin of this legend remains a mystery to me, it appears that the phrase “in My name” was probably connected to the idea of prayer. This seems all the more likely when verse 19 is considered because it explicitly references prayer. The phrase “in My name” is used several times in the New Testament in the context of prayer,

Several verses in the Bible are used this way:
John 14:13–14 NIV
13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
John 15:16 NIV
16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.
John 16:23–24 NIV
23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 24 Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
Is the phrase “in my name” used in the context of prayer in Matthew’s Gospel?
The phrase “in my name” in Matthew is used only three times. Matthew 18:20 is one of them the other two are Matthew 18:5 and Matthew 24:5.
Matthew 18:20 NIV
20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Matthew 18:5 NIV
5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
Matthew 24:5 NIV
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
Are these verses in Matthew used in the context of prayer?
The phrase “in my name” is found 18 times in the NT, adding the OT gives you another 10 verses.
Here is the complete list:
"in my name" in NIV
Matthew 18:5
And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
Matthew 18:20
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Matthew 24:5
For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
Mark 9:37
“Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me.”
Mark 9:39
“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me,
Mark 9:41
Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.
Mark 13:6
Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many.
Mark 16:17
And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
Luke 9:48
Then he said to them, “Whoever welcomes this little child in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. For it is the one who is least among you all who is the greatest.”
Luke 21:8
He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
John 14:13
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
John 14:26
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
John 15:16
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.
John 16:23
In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
John 16:24
Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
John 16:26
In that day you will ask in my name. I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf.
1 Corinthians 1:15
so no one can say that you were baptized in my name.

Instead of being a reference to prayer, the phrase means “under/in the authority of.”

When John’s Gospel uses it in the context of prayer, he is saying you should recognize that you are praying under the authority of someone else. In Matthew 18:5, it refers to welcoming a child under the authority of Jesus. In Matthew 24:5, these people are coming and pretending to be functioning under the authority of Jesus, claiming they themselves are the Messiah. A similar phrase is used in Matthew 28:19, saying disciples should be baptized “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Again this refers to authority, not prayer.

The Context for Matthew 18:20

To grasp what is being said in Matthew 18:20, you need to read Matthew 18:15-19 with it.
Matthew 18:15–20 NIV
15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. 18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. 19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
First, go and privately rebuke the person.
Second, take two or three along
Third, then the whole church
Matthew 18:20 functions to provide the theological underpinnings for the whole process. So verses 18-20 provide the reason, the authority, and the theological underpinning for the whole process.

A Closer look at Matthew 18:18-20

The idea of binding and loosing, or as the NLT translates it, “forbid” and “permit,” is reminiscent of Matthew 16:19 where these words are also used. These words relate to the authority given to the church. The idea is to communicate the seriousness of church discipline because church discipline relates to the concepts of forgiveness of sins and one’s eternal destiny.

Commentator David Turner expresses the seriousness this way: “Successively rejecting the overtures of a brother, two or three witnesses, and the church is tantamount to rejecting Jesus and the Father.”

The “two” mentioned in verse 19 probably refers back to the representatives of the church that have confronted the sinning person (cf. Matt 18:16). Jesus is explaining that the decision made by the church will be confirmed by God in heaven.

Verse 19 also mentions “any matter that you pray for” (HCSB). Nearly every other translation says “anything,” but the HCSB brilliantly states “any matter.” The typical Greek word used to say “anything” is not used in this verse (tis). For example, Matthew 21:3 contains the common word: “If anyone says anything to you” (emphasis added). But in Matthew 18:19, the words are a little different. The Greek word translated “matter” (HCSB) or “-thing” (most English versions) is a fairly uncommon word in the New Testament, occurring only eleven times (tis occurs a few hundred times).

Matthew 18:19 NIV
19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.
Matthew 18:19 HCSB
19 Again, I assure you: If two of you on earth agree about any matter that you pray for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven.

The word in Matthew 18:19 can carry a legal connotation. The setting in Matthew is sin and confrontation. Jesus mentions bringing two or three witnesses, which brings to mind a legal or courtroom setting, especially for Jews in the first century. Deuteronomy says that a legal dispute requires multiple witnesses (see Deut 17:6; 19:15). This is the evidence for Matthew 18:20 being in a legal or courtroom context.

pragma- some situation or event that is thought about and discussed often of concerns for which (legal) remedy is sought.

Disciplining people is a difficult process, turning them over to Satan for the destruction of their flesh (cf. 1 Cor 5:5), hoping they will be restored to the faith and that their souls will be saved on the day of judgment. Jesus provides comfort: his presence.

The Idea of God’s Presence

Jesus “with them” or “among them” is a minor theme in Matthew’s Gospel.

Matthew begins his Gospel in 1:23, saying, “See, the virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and they will name Him Immanuel, which is translated ‘God is with us’” (emphasis added). In Matthew 28:20, Jesus says, “And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age” (emphasis added). Matthew bookends the entire Gospel with the concept of God’s presence.

So what is the proper way to view Matthew 18:20

In this process of church discipline, Jesus says to the people who are involved in it, “I am here; I am with you; I will be guiding this process.” Verse 19 has a reference to prayer because Jesus is saying people can have a right heart in this process or a wrong heart. Those involved need to have a prayerful, submissive, broken heart.

The seriousness of church discipline should be remembered. If it is done harshly or vindictively, the consequences can be horrific. But when it is done lovingly, gently, and patiently, it can be beautiful, even when repentance doesn’t occur. It’s a serious issue, and steps should be taken slowly and cautiously.

Jesus does mention praying over a matter of church discipline, but the main idea is that the church has the authority to enact discipline, and Jesus will be present as the guidelines he sets forth are followed.

While discipline can be a scary process to begin, those involved in the process, as they prayerfully proceed, should be comforted in knowing that Jesus is sovereign and is involved in the process. He has not left us alone; he has not left his church unattended.

David Turner concludes:

The flippant way in which Matthew 18:19 is often cited to assure small meetings of Christians that God is with them is disturbing because it twists a solemn passage into a cliché. No doubt God is present with any legitimate meeting of his people, whatever its size, and there is no need to mishandle Scripture to prove it. Taking this solemn passage out of context cheapens it and profanes the sacred duty of the church to maintain the harmony of its interpersonal relationships.

Related Media
See more
Related Sermons
See more