Is there another Comforter

Daar is een Gees, maar hoekom is daar 'n Gees van God en 'n Gees van Jesus?

Romans 8:8 NKJV

8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Romans 8:9 NKJV

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Ephesians 4:4 NKJV

4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;

Die sogenaamde antwoord: Is die Heilige Gees die Gees van die Vader of Jesus - nerens sien hulle dat dit 'n ander identiteit is nie

Romans 8:9–11 NKJV

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Hier word geargimenteer dat die ONS verwys net na Jesus en die Vader... Dus is daar nie 'n derde deel van die Godheid nie...

John 14:23 NKJV

23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.

Nou verklaar die man dat daar 2 "Bybelse beginsels" 1. Alles dinge. Absoluut alle dinge kom van die Vader - ingesluit die lewe van Sy Seun EN ook die Gees. Alles kom van die Vader

1 Corinthians 8:6 NKJV

6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

John 5:26 NKJV

26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,

John 15:26 NKJV

26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

2. Die tweede ding.. Jesus is die enigste pad na die Vader... Jesus is die Hoe Priester en die Comforter??? Hy verklaar dat dit die groot doel is van die verlossingsplan is om ons weer met die Vader te verenig

Die enigste manier hoe God by ons kan wees is via Sy seun Jesus Christus - So Hier wil Hy seker wys dat die Heilige Gees bestaan nie maar die Gees.

So hulle argumenteer dat Jesus is die "channel" deur wie alles na die mensdom toe kom. Jesus is the only way through which God can dwell in Humanity. So Jesus is die Gees deur wie God in ons woon. Deur Jesus se Gees. So maak hulle die Heilige Gees nie meer 'n Gees op Sy eie nie, maar dieGees van Jesus...

1 Corinthians 6:19 NKJV

19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

2 Corinthians 5:18 NKJV

18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,

2 Corinthians 5:19 NKJV

19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Ephesians 2:18 NKJV

18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Ephesians 2:19 NKJV

19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,

Na hierdie argumente, argumenteer die antitrinitariens dat God is in Jesus en Jesus is in ons. En so is ons weer verenig met God.

Hulle se: When you receive Jesus , you have the Father, you have the Spirit, you have Jesus

1 John 2:23 NKJV

23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Net deur Jesus wat in jou woon, indwelling, kan jy connect met die Vader. So haal hulle die idee uit dat die Heilige Gees 'n entiteit op Sy eie is.

John 17:23 NKJV

23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Die volgende verse is wat ek dan soek tot anwoord

Acts 13:2 NKJV

2 As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

My tekse vir antwoord by

Ons moet die woord vertrou . Die hele Woord. En God het vir ons daar verklaar wat ons kan weet van Hom

2 Timothy 3:16 NKJV

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

Isaiah 55:9 NKJV

9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

Hebrews 13:8 NKJV

8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Ephesians 2:17–19 NKJV

17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. 19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,

John 10:30 NKJV

30 I and My Father are one.”

John 14:9 NKJV

9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

John 14:16 NKJV

16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever—

Hebrews 10:15–17 NKJV

15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”

Jeremiah 31:33 NKJV

33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Deuteronomy 6:4 NKJV

4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!

John 1:3–4 NKJV

3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

John 5:30 NKJV

30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

John 16:7 NKJV

7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.

Acts 7:55–56 NKJV

55 But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, 56 and said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”