Ecc Notes Week 8 (Ecc 6:10-7:14)

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Ecc 6:10 is evidently the shift in the book
the midway point
There seems to be a series of statements of ‘this is better than that’
seems to be emphasizing the advantage of wisdom, what is to be gained.
Ecclesiastes 2:13 (CSB)
13 And I realized that there is an advantage to wisdom over folly, like the advantage of light over darkness.
Ecclesiastes 2:14 (CSB)
14 The wise person has eyes in his head, but the fool walks in darkness. Yet I also knew that one fate comes to them both.

Verses

Ecclesiastes 6:10 (CSB)

10 Whatever exists was given its name long ago, and it is known what mankind is. But he is not able to contend with the one stronger than he.
again the statement of ‘there is nothing new under the sun.
Ecc 1:9, 3:15
Not able to contend with one stronger?
is this God? is this accept your fate?
Ecclesiastes 6:10 (NLT)
10 Everything has already been decided. It was known long ago what each person would be. So there’s no use arguing with God about your destiny.

Ecclesiastes 6:11 (CSB)

11 FOR when there are many words, they increase futility.
What is the advantage for mankind?
We cannot content with (God?) therefore more words only produce more futility — It’s no use.
So then…what advantage? what gain is there for human beings?
This is the question:
The conclusion!

Ecclesiastes 6:12 (CSB)

12 For who knows what is good for anyone in life, in the few days of his futile life that he spends like a shadow? Who can tell anyone what will happen after him under the sun?
Ecclesiastes 6:12 (ESV)
12 For who knows what is good for man while he lives the few days of his vain life, which he passes like a shadow? For who can tell man what will be after him under the sun?
What gain is there?
why? for who can contend with God
Who knows what is Good for man?
in our brief life that passes like a shadow (no substance?)
For again, who can tell what will happen after him?
what will become of all his accumulation and acheivements?
likely they will be wasted
What will become of him in the afterlife? i don’t think this is what he is asking.
rather what will remain here under the sun, that is on earth, in this earthly life.

Advantageous living

Here are some Better Conclusions? Some advantageous ways of living.

Ecclesiastes 7:1 (CSB)

1 A good name is better than fine perfume, and the day of one’s death is better than the day of one’s birth.
a good name = character = good reputation
is better than
Fine perfume = aroma = external = not original but put on — almost a sense of faking it.

Commentary

What is good?

The question in 6:12, “who knows what is good?” is a perfect preparation for the succession of sayings in 7:1–14, which are concerned with the “good.”

The most prominent catch word is טוב, “good”/“better,” which appears fifteen times in the chapter, eight times in vv 1–12. But there are also other significant repetitions: כעס, “vexation,” vv 3, 9; לב, “heart,” vv 2, 3, 4 twice, 7; בית אבל, “house of mourning,” vv 2, 4; כסיל, “fool,” vv 4–6; חכם, “wise,” vv 4, 5, 7, 10–12; רוּחַ, “spirit,” vv 8–9, with a rhymed ending in יָנוּחַ. There may be an inclusion with the appearance of יום, “day,” and טוב, “good,” in both vv 1 and 14. The most famous play on words is שׁמן/שׁם in v 1. Another instance is in v 6a: הסירים, “thorns,” הסיר, “pot,” and הכסיל, “fool.” All this suggests that we are not dealing with a haphazard collection but with a sophisticated style that has worked over several sayings and tied them together.

Acceptance of reality is a necessity. “For who knows what is good for a man in life”

Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs 18. On Wisdom and Death (6:10–7:4)

The noun ʾādām looks back to the substance from which humanity came, the ʾādāmâ (“soil”), and so draws attention to human mortality.

Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs 18. On Wisdom and Death (6:10–7:4)

. (2) Fine perfume speaks of wealth and luxury (Isa 3:20), but it may also allude to funeral preparations (cf. John 19:39

A precious ointment was a costly luxury in ancient Israel (see Est. 2:12; Ps. 45:8; Amos 6:6; Matt. 26:7).

The ESV Study Bible (Chapter 7)
Bereavement, while painful, is a more effective prod to growth in spiritual wisdom and maturity than the elation one feels over a newborn child.

Crackling of thorns

The crackling of thorns under a pot refers to the meaningless roar of a fire.

The complete verse may be translated:

• Like the sound of twigs burning under a pot, so is the laughter of fools. It makes noise, but it accomplishes nothing.

Or, linking up to verse 5,

• … because the laughter of fools is like the crackling of thorny twigs burning under a cooking pot. It is empty sound; it means nothing at all.

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

King Solomon compared the praise of fools to the burning thorns in a campfire: you hear a lot of noise, but you don’t get much lasting good. (Again, Solomon used a play on words.

in other words, it is just noise with little good but temporary relief

Grieving

Be Satisfied Chapter Seven: Is Life a Dead-End Street? (Ecclesiastes 6)

It’s been my experience in pastoral ministry that most explanations don’t solve personal problems or make people feel better.

Be Satisfied Chapter Seven: Is Life a Dead-End Street? (Ecclesiastes 6)

knowledge in the mind does not guarantee healing for the heart. That comes only when we put faith in the promises of God.

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

If given the choice, most people would rather go to a birthday party than to a funeral; but Solomon advised against it.

balance

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

If given the choice, most people would rather go to a birthday party than to a funeral; but Solomon advised against it.

Naming

Be Satisfied Chapter Seven: Is Life a Dead-End Street? (Ecclesiastes 6)

To the Jewish mind, giving a name to something is the same as fixing its character and stating what the thing really is

God

It is the pursuit of God, rather than the pursuit of either laughter or wealth, that in turn reintegrates laughter and wealth into the good life and makes them wholesome.

Anger

Note that “anger” in verse 9 is again kaʿas, as in verse 3. Anger directed at foolish behavior for the purposes of bringing the fool to his senses is a good thing. Anger as an indication of impatience and arrogance is itself a mark of the fool.

Ecc 7:13-14

Although certain ways of being and behaving are wiser than others and in general tend toward life rather than death, yet in the end we must remember that the universe is not a predictable machine but a personally governed and complex space. Wisdom is not magic. God is not an object to be manipulated, nor does God’s world belong to human beings. If God makes something crooked, it is beyond human power to make it straight (v. 13; cf. 1:15).

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

way? The answer is simple: to keep us from thinking we know it all and that we can manage our lives by ourselves. “Therefore, a man cannot discover anything about his future” (v. 14, NIV). Just about the time we think we have an explanation for things, God changes the situation and we have to throw out our formula.

death better than birth?

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

He was contrasting two significant days in human experience: the day a person receives his or her name and the day when that name shows up in the obituary column. The life lived between those two events will determine whether that name leaves behind a lovely fragrance or a foul stench. “His name really stinks!” is an uncouth statement, but it gets the point across.

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

“The memory of the just is blessed, but the name of the wicked shall rot” (Prov. 10:7, and see Prov. 22:1).

mary’s annointing

Be Satisfied Chapter Eight: How to Be Better off (Ecclesiastes 7)

Mary of Bethany anointed the Lord Jesus with expensive perfume and its fragrance filled the house. Jesus told her that her name would be honored throughout the world, and it is. On the other hand, Judas sold the Lord Jesus into the hands of the enemy; and his name is generally despised (Mark 14:1–11).

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