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PDA Introduction (Why are we doing this?)
What is the purpose of this series?
Yes, I want you to know how to defend your faith.
But there’s something even more important.
In Luke 9:51, Jesus is on His way to Jerusalem and He sends some of them ahead to get a room for the night in a samaritan village, but they reject them.
They come back, tell the news, and James and John ask, ‘Do you want us to call fire down from Heaven and consume them?’
Jesus responds, ‘You do not know what spirit you belong to, for the Son of Man did not come to destroy people’s lives, but to save them.’
What was last week’s lesson on?
Love; that wasn’t an accident.
The most important thing for you to remember from this series and practice during it is not how to defend your argument, but how to do it with love.
In other words, your goal is not to win the argument.
Your goal is always to win the person.
Sometimes both are not always possible.
Rules:
I will open by stating my argument with a little bit of fuel.
My argument must come from the Bible.
After I present my argument, you’re allowed to start defending Christianity.
Your argument must come from the Bible; you’re allowed to have notes, but those notes must be from a source that uses the Bible.
I’m allowed to lie to you; but if you ask me if I’m lying I’ll tell you honestly.
**The truth is never afraid to be questioned.
A lie never likes to be challenged.**
If the majority either wishes to give up, y’all win, or we run out of time, I will open a Q & A for any of you.
If I feel an argument is at a dead end, either by me losing or you going silent, I’ll open a new one and we’ll address the old one during the Q&A.
To make things more efficient, I will only pick those who raise their hand.
If you have a thought to add, raise your hand.
Any questions?
Let the game begin.
Opening Argument: God’s Regret
The Bible claims that God doesn’t change; that He is constant and unchanging.
However, we find that God, in Genesis 6, did regret creating mankind.
We find the same wording in 1 Samuel, twice.
It sounds to me as though God made a mistake.
In other words, if God were to go over it again, He would handle it differently.
God regretted an action.
“If I would’ve known this happened, I never would’ve done this to begin with.”
kinda thing.
People usually regret over mistakes, right?
So God made a mistake, things played out, and God regretted, or changed His view on His previous actions.
In other words, God changed.
Counter to ‘God is omniscient’:
If God is omniscient, then why did He regret?
This doesn’t answer my question, it only points out that maybe the Bible is contradicting itself.
In fact, in the same chapter in 1 Samuel, the Bible says in verse 29:
Then, to reread a verse I quoted earlier:
1 Samuel 15:35 (CSB)
the Lord regretted he had made Saul king over Israel.
The Hebrew word there is niham, to repent, to be sorry, or to console oneself.
Verse 29 says God does not niham and then 6 verses later in the same chapter, it says God niham-ed… in the same chapter.
Argument: God changed His mind.
Ok, so what about a time that God didn’t regret, but instead, He literally changed His mind?
There’s a place in the Bible where God got so mad, He told Moses that He was going to kill all of Israel, millions and millions of people, and start over with just Moses.
Do you believe me?
So God changed His mind?
He was going to do one thing, Moses told God not to do it, and He listened??
In fact, this isn’t the only time this happens in Scripture!
In Genesis 18, God was going to destroy an entire city and Abraham kept pleading for God.
“If you find 50 people, will you spare the city?” “45, 40, 30, 20, 10?”
There’s also a place in 2 Samuel.
Answer: God Changed His Mind
If it wasn’t for the intercession of Moses, Israel would’ve been wiped out.
Do you really think God had to tell Moses that He was going to wipe out Israel? No. He’s God, He could just do it and it would happen.
So why tell Moses?
Because Moses would intercede for the nation of Israel.
But why is this story in the Bible anyways?
Or what about the angel that stopped at Jerusalem?
Because it’s meant to be an image of Christ.
This is something we’ll study in our series “Glimpses”.
What is God’s covenant with Israel?
Jesus
Big Guns Argument: OT Vs.
NT
Let me direct your attention to one major argument.
I’ll be reading from Deuteronomy.
The context, so you won’t think I’m lying is that God is telling Israel, God’s chosen people, the horrible things that He will cause to happen to them.
Let’s read from the New Testament, shall we?
In what way should we love one another?
Jesus healing people or cursing people with boils and tumors and disease and suffering?
Because it seems to me that the God in the OT is a different being than the God in the NT.
Answer: God’s Regret
Human repentance/regret is due to one of two things:
New information
Bad behavior
God’s repentance includes neither.
Let’s take Samuel and Saul for example since we’re on the subject.
In chapter 8 (you can read this on your own time, but I’ll summarize.. it’s only 21 verses), Israel tells Samuel ”Give us a king to lead us because you’re getting pretty old.”
Samuel tells God, God tells Samuel “Listen (shema) to everything they say.
They’re not rejecting you, Samuel.
They’re rejecting me like they’ve done since the day I rescued them from Egypt.
So go and tell them all these bad things that are going to happen because they want a king.”
Then for like 10 verses, Samuel tells the people of Israel all these bad things that God already knows is going to happen.
Israel basically says “Nuh uh.
Our king will lead us and fight our battles.”
Then God tells Samuel “Appoint them a king.”
It’s not new information for God that Saul was going to be a terrible guy.
In the same book, God tells them everything that’s going to happen.
And we know that if God knew beforehand what was going to happen, but it was Israel’s choice, it wasn’t a mistake (or bad behavior) that God made.
So God did not make a mistake.
So if God doesn’t regret how man regrets, how does God regret?
It’s not “I hate what I have done.
I didn’t know this was going to happen.”
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